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    a single day where/when

    There's not a single day where/when I don't make a decision.

    Do both where and when work well for the sentence? Is the 'where' used instead of 'when to make the sentence sound more poetic?

    Thank you in advance.
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    Re: a single day where/when

    NOT A TEACHER,

    I wouldn't use either or because "that" is more appropriate.

    There's not a single day THAT I don't make a decision.

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    Re: a single day where/when

    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi man View Post
    I wouldn't use either or because "that" is more appropriate.

    There's not a single day THAT I don't make a decision.
    'When' is fine.

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    Re: a single day where/when

    Where cannot be used instead of when. Where shows position. When shows time.

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    Re: a single day where/when

    Quote Originally Posted by ManjushaNambiar View Post
    Where cannot be used instead of when. Where shows position. When shows time.
    That's true. But there are circumstances where the choice is not obvious, as in this abstract concept that involves neither time nor space.

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    Re: a single day where/when

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    That's true. But there are circumstances where the choice is not obvious, as in this abstract concept that involves neither time nor space.
    That was what I thought as well. It led me to conclude that the word which should be used here is "that."

    What is your say though?

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    Re: a single day where/when

    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi man View Post
    That was what I thought as well. It led me to conclude that the word which should be used here is "that."

    What is your say though?
    Do you mean, "There are circumstances that the choice is not obvious"? That doesn't work. "Where" is correct. You can say, "There are circumstances in which the choice is not obvious."

    If you mean the original, I have a small problem with 'that'.
    If 'that' substitutes for 'when', it seems to require a preposition, as in the above.
    "There's not a single day on which I don't make a decision."
    "There's not a single day that I don't make a decision on."
    With "when", the preposition isn't needed.

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    Re: a single day where/when

    Quote Originally Posted by joham View Post
    There's not a single day where/when I don't make a decision.

    Do both where and when work well for the sentence? Is the 'where' used instead of 'when to make the sentence sound more poetic?

    Thank you in advance.


    ****** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, Joham.

    (1) Thanks for another great question.

    (2) I have learned a lot from the other posters. One of this

    website's top teachers wrote that your sentence "involves

    neither time nor space." That is a vital point to remember.

    (3) I also got this from a top teacher at another helpline: "We can

    use 'where' not only to refer to a place, but also to a situation or

    occasion." An excellent learner who posts to that website and

    this one had given this example: "This is a day where we are celebrating

    women around the world."

    (4) I'm sure that you know the Longman English Grammar. Well, that

    most beloved scholar, L.G. Alexander, said that in a defining (restrictive)

    clause, we have this choice:

    I remember the summer we had the big drought.
    I remember the summer that we had the big drought.
    I remember the summer when we had the big drought.
    I remember the summer during which we had the big drought.

    (5) By the way, I do not think the choice has anything to do with

    "poetic reasons."

    (6) The bottom line:

    (a) Probably many (most?) native speakers "skirt" the issue by simply saying "There's not a single day I don't make a decision."

    (b) Like you, I, too, want to know what "connecting word/s" to use.

    So I guess we have a big choice:

    There's not a single day that I don't make a decision.
    There's not a single day when I don't make a decision.
    There's not a single day on which I don't make a decision.
    There's not a single day during which I don't make a decision.

    I think it would be wise to forget "where." But I also think that

    it would unwise to say that it is "wrong."

    (7) Hopefully, others will join this stimulating discussion.


    Sincerely,


    James

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