Is the sentence fine?

[Tan Elaine]

The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of them students and academics.

The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of whom were students and academics.

Is the first sentence fine? It appears to be a comma splice to me.

Thanks.

 

[Raymott]

The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of them students and academics.

The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of whom were students and academics.

Is the first sentence fine? It appears to be a comma splice to me.

Thanks.

Both sentences are fine.
You can't have a comma splice unless you have a sentence on both sides of a comma -- that's what "comma splice" means.

 

[david11]

The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of them students and academics.

Thanks.

Hello Raymott sir.

Can "were" be omitted here?

 

[Raymott]

Hello Raymott sir.

Can "were" be omitted here?

Both sentences are fine - so much has already been established.
You can't remove "were" from sentence 2, and sentence 1 doesn't need it.
The sentence you quote doesn't contain "were".

 

[david11]

Both sentences are fine. The only difference is that one has "were" and the other doesn't. So much has already been established.
What can you infer from that?

Thank you sir.

 

[Raymott]

Thank you sir.

PS: I've edited my post again. The sentences do actually contain differences beyond the use of "were". But "were" is not needed in the first.
You're replying too quickly!

 

[david11]

The sentence you quote doesn't contain "were".

Yes. It doesn't contain "were".

That's why I asked "Can we write it without were".

Your subsequent post explained it.

You can't remove "were" from sentence 2, and sentence 1 doesn't need it..

Then, Is the following sentences possible?


1)Most of your work good.

2)Some of Americans black.

I have written the above sentences without "were".


Thank you.

 

[david11]

PS: I've edited my post again. The sentences do actually contain differences beyond the use of "were".
!

Could you please explain the differences sir. I couldn't find any.

You're replying too quickly.!

I would not have replied, if I had known you were editing your post. Sorry for causing inconvenience sir.




Thank you.

 

[Tan Elaine]

PS: I've edited my post again. The sentences do actually contain differences beyond the use of "were". But "were" is not needed in the first.
You're replying too quickly!

Thanks, Raymott.

Could you please let me know the difference between the two sentences? I thought they had the same meaning.

 

[Raymott]

Then, Is the following sentences possible?


1)Most of your work is good.

2)Some of Americans are black.

I have written the above sentences without "were".
That's OK, because 'were' is probably not the best verb but, being sentences, they require a verb. Up until now, we were discussing whether 'were' was needed in a dependent clause/phrase attached to a main clause that already had a verb.

Thank you.

There's a difference between omitting a verb from a dependent clause, and omitting a verb from a sentence.
1. "The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of them students and academics."
This sentence requires a verb, and it has one (drew). The adjectival phrase doesn't need a verb.

 

[White Hat]

You might be familiar with a usage like this:

The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of them BEING students and academics.

 

[Raymott]

Thanks, Raymott.

Could you please let me know the difference between the two sentences?
I thought they had the same meaning.
They do have the same meaning. That does not mean there is no structural difference between them.

They do, but I originally said that the presence or absence of "were" was the only difference; but I changed that because, on looking closely at the sentences again, it is obviously not true. (2. has "whom" in it, while 1 doesn't; 1 has "them" in it, while 2 doesn't.)

 

[White Hat]

Comma splice -> The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of them WERE students and academics.[STRIKE]

Comma splice[/STRIKE] -> a) The protest drew about 100 people yesterday. Many of them WERE students and academics.
b) The protest drew about 100 people yesterday; many of them WERE students and academics.
c) The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of them students and academics.
d) The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of them BEING students and academics.

 

[Tan Elaine]

You might be familiar with a usage like this:

The protest drew about 100 people yesterday, many of them BEING students and academics.

Thanks, Bennevis.

I wonder whether 'being' should be in the above sentence. Please help me clear my doubt.

 

[Raymott]

Thanks, Bennevis.

I wonder whether 'being' should be in the above sentence. Please help me clear my doubt.

It's unnecessary, it doesn't sound very natural; but no one has yet suggested that it's actually wrong. I wouldn't use it, and I'd suggest that, if you don't like it, you don't use it either.

 

[White Hat]

Thanks, Bennevis.

I wonder whether 'being' should be in the above sentence. Please help me clear my doubt.

I put it in there just to show you what could make it sound a bit better and more understandable.