for him to see the screen

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navi tasan

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Are these sentences correct:

1-I pushed him forward for him to see the screen.

I pushed him forward so that he would see the screen.

2-I pushed him forward for me to see the screen.
I pushed him forward so that I would see the screen.

3-I pushed him forward to see the screen.


I supposed "3" would be ambiguous.

4-I pushed him to fall.

I pushed him so that he would fall.

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Not really. Without 'for him' the default interpretation is that the sentence subject is also the subject of the infinitive.

#4 is virtually meaningless, unless one interprets 'push' in the metaphorical sense of 'encourage/cajole'.
 

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Thank you very much Philo2009.

I am not sure I get it.
"1" and "2' do have "for him" and "for me" in them. Are they correct?

I think I might have asked the question in a confusing way! I do not understand which part of my question is being addressed but "not really". My apologies. I do this kind of thing often, but always in spite of myself.

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1 & 2 seem unnatural ways of getting the meaning across- the versions with so that work better.
 

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I apologize for my confusing response.
Yes, #1 and 2 are quite acceptable.

Thank you very much Philo2009.

I am not sure I get it.
"1" and "2' do have "for him" and "for me" in them. Are they correct?

I think I might have asked the question in a confusing way! I do not understand which part of my question is being addressed but "not really". My apologies. I do this kind of thing often, but always in spite of myself.

Gratefully,
Navi.
 
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