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Please confirm which one is correct.

The NEFT form must be complete. It should not be empty.
The NEFT form must be completed. It should not be empty.
 

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Re: grammer

I prefer the second. Note the correct spelling of "gramma​r".
 

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Neither is good. There's a huge difference between a completed/complete form and an empty one.
You want to ensure that no spaces are left empty (if you do). This can be done by saying "Please fill in ALL questions".
 

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Re: grammer

Is the first wrong?
 

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Re: grammer

No.
 

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yes, it's wrong if you want a correct writing.
The verb be in any of its forms (am, is, are, was, were, be, been, being) can be followed by an other verb. this verb should be in the present participle or the past participle.
- We are do* our homework. (should be are doing)
- The homework was did* early. (should be was done)
- Tom is take* the book. (should be is taking)
- The book was took* by Tom. (should be was taken)
be + 1) present participle
2) past participle


You were asking about should. whenever you see a model, such as: (will, would, shall, should, can, could, may, might, must) you should be sure that the verb that follows it is in its base form.
- The boat will leaving*. (should be will leave)
- The doctor may arrives* soon. (should be may arrive)
- The students must taken* the exam. (should be must take)
modal + main form of the verb

in your situation, must + be + 1) completing
2) completed
 
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Yes, it's wrong if you want a correct piece of writing/if you want to write correctly.
The verb "[to] be" in any of its forms (am, is, are, was, were, be, been, being) can be followed by [strike]an other[/strike] another verb. This verb should be in the present participle or the past participle.

- We are do* our homework. (should be are doing)
- The homework was did* early. (should be was done)
- Tom is take* the book. (should be is taking)
- The book was took* by Tom. (should be was taken)
be + 1) present participle
2) past participle


You were asking about "should". Whenever you see a model, such as: "will, would, shall, should, can, could, may, might, must", you should [strike]be[/strike] make sure that the verb that follows it is in its base form.

- The boat will leaving*. (should be will leave)
- The doctor may arrives* soon. (should be may arrive)
- The students must taken* the exam. (should be must take)
modal + main form of the verb

In your situation, must + be + 1) completing
2) completed

Fish-able, please see my corrections to your post above. It is admirable that you wish to help another learner but you need to make sure your writing is correct. The forum guidelines state that you must start your post with "Not a teacher" if you are responding to another learner's question. I have edited your post so that that appears at the start.
 

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Not a teacher

yes, it's wrong if you want a correct writing.
The verb be in any of its forms (am, is, are, was, were, be, been, being) can be followed by an other verb. this verb should be in the present participle or the past participle.
- We are do* our homework. (should be are doing)
- The homework was did* early. (should be was done)
- Tom is take* the book. (should be is taking)
- The book was took* by Tom. (should be was taken)
be + 1) present participle
2) past participle


You were asking about should. whenever you see a model, such as: (will, would, shall, should, can, could, may, might, must) you should be sure that the verb that follows it is in its base form.
- The boat will leaving*. (should be will leave)
- The doctor may arrives* soon. (should be may arrive)
- The students must taken* the exam. (should be must take)
modal + main form of the verb

in your situation, must + be + 1) completing
2) completed

No, you are wrong.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/complete?s=t

"Complete" is an adjective. Definition 1 "having all parts or elements, lacking nothing."

That fits in this context. It's the word I would choose.

To me, "complete" emphasizes that all of the items on the form must be filled in. No blanks. No omissions.

"Completed," to me, simply emphasizes that a person filled out the form to the best of his ability. The form is not blank. He is finished with the form.
 

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yes, it's wrong if you want a correct writing.
I was really hoping we had crossed in posting when I said it was not wrong, then you said it was. You should make a habit of reading a thread first. This would prevent you from embarrassing yourself by disagreeing with regular commentators who know what they're talking about (usually).
Both emsr2d2 and I had already suggested that it was not incorrect.
 
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NABADIP, please note that a better title would have been The NEFT form must be complete/completed.

Extract from the Posting Guidelines:

'Thread titles should include all or part of the word/phrase being discussed.'
 

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Hi. I'm not a teacher, at all.
May I allow myself to intervene?

The NEFT form must be complete. It should not be empty.
The NEFT form must be completed. It should not be empty.

To me the first one means that the form must be full, no field can be left empty and to me, the second one means that the form has to be filled but just, if it's not complete, it's not that bad. Am I wrong?
 

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I think the intention of both sentences is that form is completely filled out.
 

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I agree with Mike. When people design forms, they usually expect every field to be filled in (filled out in AmE) even if it's with "N/A" (not applicable).
 
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