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    Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    a. Not all the books which you can find in a library are good for you. (from my teacher's handout)
    b. Not all the books that you can find in a library are good for you.
    c. Not all the books you can find in a library are good for you.
    Are they all correct? Sentence a is from my teacher's handout, but I think "which" is wrong; the correct word should be that or just leave it out, like sentence b and c. Am I right? And, can I say "are good to you" instead?

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    Re: Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by z7655431 View Post
    Sentence a is from my teacher's handout, but I think "which" is wrong
    I think 'which' is correct because it can be used in both restrictive and non-restrictive relative clauses according to http://writingcenter.unc.edu/handouts/relative-clauses/
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    Re: Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    The reason why I thought "which" is wrong is because there is a rule that says if there's "all" in the antecedent, then use "that", not "which".

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    #4

    Re: Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    I find "that" more natural in that sentence.
    “Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”

    — Arthur Schopenhauer

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    Re: Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    I think the antecedent is 'the books' not 'all'.
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    Re: Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    I think the antecedent is 'the books' not 'all'.
    That's why I asked here. It's ambiguous. I am not sure if "all" is just part of the antecedent or it's the modifier of the antecedent, in this case, is "which" wrong and we can only use "that"? I want to know this.

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    Re: Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionarie...sh/all_1?q=all
    Having read the above, I think 'all' is a determiner here, which is not the antecedent.
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    Re: Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    On an unrelated issue, I'd remove 'can' from all of those sentences.

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    Re: Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    On an unrelated issue, I'd use 'that' instead of 'because' below.
    Quote Originally Posted by z7655431 View Post
    The reason ... is because ...
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    #10

    Re: Not all the books (that/which) you can find in a library are good for you.

    I've seen conflicting opinions, but as I understand it, all three are fine in British English.

    In the US, we would only say "which" if there were commas after "books" and "library."
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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