Alternative forms of intransitive verbs

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1) The Sun has set.

2) He has gone.

In the above-mentioned sentences, Present Perfect Tense is used.

As the verbs 'Set' and 'go' are intransitive verbs signifying motion and change, can I rewrite the sentences as under in an alternative way using 'be' verb?

1) The Sun is set.

2) He is gone.

Is there any difference in meaning between the two forms?
 
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You're using the past participle as an adjective in the second pair.
 

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You're using the past participle as an adjective in the second pair.

Yes, I have used the past participle of the intransitive verbs 'set' and 'go' to form an alternative perfect tense.

I want to know whether in the sentence 'He has gone', emphasis is laid on the time of the action and in the sentence 'He is gone', emphasis is laid on the state of the agent, i.e., his absence, and not on the time of action.
 

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The second pair of sentences are in the present tense, not perfect tense.

You are right about the shift of emphasis from the happening of an action to the state/condition.

Do we say emphasis is laid or emphasis is placed?
 
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Some, and I don't want to start a row here, argue that the perfect is an aspect, not a tense.
 

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The second pair of sentences are in the present tense, not perfect tense.

You are right about the shift of emphasis from the happening of an action to the state/condition.

Do we say emphasis is laid or emphasis is placed?

Some, and I don't want to start a row here, argue that the perfect is an aspect, not a tense.


I mean that I used the alternative form of the Present Perfect Tense which is used to express an action just finished.
 

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I'm not sure I understand what you mean, Barman, but the present perfect always has "has" or "have" and a past participle verb.
I wonder if you're thinking about such sentences as:

The sun's just set.
or
He's just gone out for a minute.
Note that the apostrophe+s in those is short for "has" not "is".
 

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I'm not sure I understand what you mean, Barman, but the present perfect always has "has" or "have" and a past participle verb.
I wonder if you're thinking about such sentences as:

The sun's just set.
or
He's just gone out for a minute.
Note that the apostrophe+s in those is short for "has" not "is".

Respected teechar,

Can I use the form of 'be' verb in the sentences written by me instead of the 'has+past participle form of the intransitive verbs'?
 

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Yes, but the meaning would change.

You may find a sentence such as "The sun is set" in a literary/poetic context. It would be like saying "The sun is down".

"He is gone" could, for example, mean he is dead/missing.

Do you see the difference?
 

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I mean that I used the alternative form of the present perfect [tense] which is used to express an action that has just finished.

Note my changes above. There is no need to capitalise the names of tenses, and never a need to capitalise the word "tense".
 
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