[Grammar] to have someone done something

[Flogger]

Hello

I am aware that there is structure in English named "causative structure" in which the doer is not the subject of the sentence. The causative structure forms like this " have someone do something", but in the following sentence, it seems that there's someone else promoting the social ranking of female computers.

I could not come up with a name for this type of structure. would you please help me?

In the mid-1950s, a woman named Helen Willey led a successful charge to have every female computer with a math degree upgraded to mathematician, a title that automatically applied to men with the same credential.

 

[5jj]

Causative forms can be:

Active: I had the mechanic repair my car'
or passive: I had my car repaired by the mechanic.

 

[emsr2d2]

Your title is incorrect. It should be "to have someone do something". As you can see from 5jj's active sentence, "repair" is in the base infinitive form even though the action is in the past. The past is expressed by the use of "had".

 

[Flogger]

Your title is incorrect. It should be "to have someone do something". As you can see from 5jj's active sentence, "repair" is in the base infinitive form even though the action is in the past. The past is expressed by the use of "had".

But if you pay attention to the original post. female graduates, as human beings, were upgraded to mathematicians by someone who is unfamiliar to us, though 5jj explained it perfectly.

 

[slevlife]

Au contraire.

I mean, 5jj did explain it perfectly, but he didn't use the form "have someone done something." For his passive example, he used "had something done by someone."

Your original quote used the form "did something to have something done." ("... led a successful charge to have every female computer with a math degree upgraded to mathematician.")

Leaving the verb "led" out of what you were analyzing might have led to some confusion here. Also note that I'm treating "upgraded to mathematician" as the action (the "done" part of the structure) since "to mathematician" is describing the action of upgrading. "To mathematician" is not a new "something" in the sentence.