What is the phrase between "fair to say" and "it's really tough"?

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What is the phrase between "fair to say" and "it's really tough"? at 11:47 in [
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... erm, and I've been a councillor myself and it's really really tough when you're going out ...
 
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And for the bit before (which also has "fair to say"): "It's really fair to say that the conservative councilors definitely are facing headwinds".
 
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