You'd think I'd learn by now

[EngLearner]

I came across the scenario below while watching a movie. A guy was eating something, it fell out of his mouth and left a stain on his t-shirt. A girl who was sitting opposite to him, got angry with him because the same thing had happened to him several times before, and she had told him how he should eat to prevent such a thing from happening. She gave him an angry look, and he said to her:

Yeah, yeah, I know... You'd think I'd learn by now...

I would've expected "I would've learned" there instead of "I'd learn" because "by now" triggers the perfect aspect in my mind. What do you think?

 

[5jj]

I would've expected "I would've learned" there instead of "I'd learn"

So would I.

 

[teechar]

Do you have a link to the clip/movie? If so, please also provide the timestamp.

 

[EngLearner]

The name of the movie is "Never hike alone 2." Here's a link to it on youtube (timestamp: 17m05s).

 

[EngLearner]

The name of the movie is "Never hike alone 2." Here's a link to it on youtube (timestamp: 17m05s).

By the way, should I've written "Never Hike Alone 2" (using capital letters)?

 

[teechar]

By the way, should I've written "Never Hike Alone 2" (using capital letters)?

Yes, that would be better, and yes that's (I'd learn) what he says in the movie.

 

[Maybo]

The speaker in the TV show "Ugly Betty" said "You'd think you'd know your sister by now".
Is it that when in spoken language, speakers tend to use "you would know" rather than "you would have known"?

 

[5jj]

No. Different verb, different patterens.

 

[jutfrank]

It's really about the meaning of the verb.

The verb 'know' in the Ugly Betty example is stative. 'Knowing her' is not an action that can be accomplished.