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Old 15-Mar-2004, 10:17
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Excuse me,
I'm finding the essays on The Escape, The luncheon, and The moon and the sixpence. I'm learning English literature and finding the references for it. But I cannot. Please help me. Next week I wanna make a presentation on one of the three stories above, especially the two short stories (the escape and the luncheon). Please help me to approach the references.
Thank you so much.
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Old 15-Mar-2004, 12:58
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I think you could go to 'google' that's a helping hand to find things you want information about. If I have to make a piece of work I always go to 'google', because it helps me finding information.

I just took a look at 'google' and I found some information, so you could to. It's written in English, but I think you can read that... :)
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Old 15-Mar-2004, 14:58
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Excuse me,
I'm finding the essays on The Escape, The luncheon, and The moon and the sixpence. I'm learning English literature and finding the references for it. But I cannot. Please help me. Next week I wanna make a presentation on one of the three stories above, especially the two short stories (the escape and the luncheon). Please help me to approach the references.
Thank you so much.
I agree about "Google". It is a great search engine that you can reach here:

www.google.com

Use quotation marks around the titles when you type them in the seach box.
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Old 15-Mar-2004, 15:02
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I think you could go to 'google' that's a helping hand to find things you want information about. If I have to make a piece of work I always go to 'google', because it helps me finding information.

I just took a look at 'google' and I found some information, so you could to. It's written in English, but I think you can read that... :)
I hope you won't mind a few corrections.

I think you should go to 'Google'. That site is very helpful for finding things you want information about. If I have to write something, I always go to 'Google', because it helps me find information.

I just took a look at 'Google', and I found some information, so you could too. It's written in English, but I think you can read it.

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Old 16-Mar-2004, 03:47
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Hi, (of course I prefer this kind of greeting, but don't know whether the other do or not)
I know about the Google, and tried several times. But still cannot get what I need. So I have to ask you if you know some websites on this aspect. I'll use Google once again, and try not to disturb you too much, but if I failed, please help me.
P/s: The three stories above is of William Somerset Maugham (I think you knew it, but it's better to write everything in details)
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Old 16-Mar-2004, 07:55
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I think you could go to 'google' that's a helping hand to find things you want information about. If I have to make a piece of work I always go to 'google', because it helps me finding information.

I just took a look at 'google' and I found some information, so you could to. It's written in English, but I think you can read that... :)
I hope you won't mind a few corrections.

I think you should go to 'Google'. That site is very helpful for finding things you want information about. If I have to write something, I always go to 'Google', because it helps me find information.

I just took a look at 'Google', and I found some information, so you could too. It's written in English, but I think you can read it.

:wink:

Thanks MikeNewYork,
I always try to make the best of my sentences, but it's still hard. But you said:
helpful for finding things

and I want to know why it's not
helpful to find things

:?
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Old 16-Mar-2004, 14:37
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Hi, (of course I prefer this kind of greeting, but don't know whether the other do or not)
I know about the Google, and tried several times. But still cannot get what I need. So I have to ask you if you know some websites on this aspect. I'll use Google once again, and try not to disturb you too much, but if I failed, please help me.
P/s: The three stories above is of William Somerset Maugham (I think you knew it, but it's better to write everything in details)
"Hi!" is perfectly acceptable here.

I found several websites that should give you what you want. Go to: http://ms101.mysearch.com/jsp/GGmain...set+Maugham%22. (I put "The Escape"+"William Somerset Maugham" in the search bar.)

(Say: "The three stories are by William Somerset Maugham.")

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Thanks MikeNewYork,
I always try to make the best of my sentences, but it's still hard. But you said:
helpful for finding things

and I want to know why it's not
helpful to find things

:?
The word "helpful" is a bit tricky. One can say: "It is helpful to use more than one example in an explanation." The infinitive is used there because it is an abstract statement. It is used as a general rule, not in reference to a specific action. One can also say "A shovel is helpful for digging up treasure". In this case the gerund use is more concrete and more specific. I am not explaining this very well. Hopefully one of the others will have a better explanation.
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Thanks MikeNewYork. I always try to make the best of my sentences, but it's still hard. But you said: "helpful for finding things", and I want to know why it's not "helpful to find things" :?
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I think you could go to 'google' that's a helping hand to find things you want information about.
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That site is very helpful for finding things.

helpful (to X) for Y reasons e.g, "Google is helpful (to people) for these reasons"

Note, I think you could go to 'google'...
==> Try, You might want to try 'google'. In speaking, saying, "I think you could", with intonantion marking a polite suggestion, is fine; it's polite; But, in writing, there is no intonantion, and so the reader might take the words "I think you could" (i.e, I know you have the ability) as patronizing or condescending.


Note, "...you could go to 'google' that's...."
==> Try, "You could go to 'google'. That's..." There are two subjects (You/That) and two verbs (could go/is) so there should be some puncutation to show the reader where one sentences ends and the other begins.

Note, "That's a helping hand to find things"
==> Try, "That (Going to 'google') is a helpful way of / helpful for finding things". Remember that "helpful" has the following structure: helpful to X for Y.


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Old 17-Mar-2004, 09:31
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Thanks MikeNewYork,
I always try to make the best of my sentences, but it's still hard. But you said:
helpful for finding things

and I want to know why it's not
helpful to find things

:?
The word "helpful" is a bit tricky. One can say: "It is helpful to use more than one example in an explanation." The infinitive is used there because it is an abstract statement. It is used as a general rule, not in reference to a specific action. One can also say "A shovel is helpful for digging up treasure". In this case the gerund use is more concrete and more specific. I am not explaining this very well. Hopefully one of the others will have a better explanation.
I think you weren't unhelpful at all, it's just hard because it's something English people understand and people who were not grown up with this language, think it's difficult. I also think it's just a kind of intuition, which I don't possess.
But I'll try to understand..... I have tried but I can't find logical explanations for
1. It is helpful to use more than one example in an explanation.
I understand that this sentence can't be
2. It is helpful for using more than one example in an explanation.
because it doesn't sound logical.

But this sentence
1. A shovel is helpful for digging up treasure.
or this sentence
2. A shovel is helpful to dig up a treasure.
sound both very logical.

Can you or one of the other teachers explain, why these second sentences are incorrect?
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