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Hello,
Long time ago I asked about that sentence:
You wish you looked this good.
(It should be correct. - Present (no Past))

Now I would like to know if I still can use good if I replace looked with any other word.
You wish you played this good.
I'm not sure because on the one hand good belongs to played but on the other hand it's this good.
(Look + adverb is an exception as we know.)

So let's say someone says:
"You cannot play well, you're pretty bad."
and you answer:
"What? You wish you played this good!"
(In case you need a bit more context :))

Cheers!

 

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Hello,
Long time ago I asked about that sentence:
You wish you looked this good.
(It should be correct. - Present (no Past))

Now I would like to know if I still can use good if I replace looked with any other word.
You wish you played this good.
I'm not sure because on the one hand good belongs to played but on the other hand it's this good.
(Look + adverb is an exception as we know.)

So let's say someone says:
"You cannot play well, you're pretty bad."
and you answer:
"What? You wish you played this good!"
(In case you need a bit more context :))

Cheers!


***** NOT A TEACHER ****

Good morning, nightmare,

(1) Maybe I have misunderstood your post, but "good" is

not usually considered an adverb.

You + look (linking verb) + good (adjective -- describes your appearance).

He + looked (full verb) + carefully (adverb -- in a careful manner).

(2) Wow! I love the way you play the piano. I wish that I could play as WELL as you. ("well" = adverb. HOW you do something.)


(3) To play good = popular but not "correct" English.


(a) That soccer team plays real good. English teachers prefer:

(i) That soccer team plays really well. / That soccer team plays very well.

Have a nice day!
 
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Good evening, Parser ;-):)
Thanks for your answer.

I will try to explain it better:
He looks very good. -> good = adjective
He plays very well. -> well = adverb
You wish you looked this good. -> good = adjective
You wish you played this good. -> Do I need a well again?
Please only focus on the this.

He cannot play piano as well as I.
-> well = adverb

P.S: Are you sure wished is correct in your (2)?

Cheers!
 

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Good evening, Parser ;-):)
Thanks for your answer.

I will try to explain it better:
He looks very good. -> good = adjective
He plays very well. -> well = adverb
You wish you looked this good. -> good = adjective
You wish you played this good. -> Do I need a well again?
Please only focus on the this.

He cannot play piano as well as I. -> well = adverb

P.S: Are you sure wished is correct in your (2)?

Cheers!

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

Good afternoon, nightmare.

(1) I thank you for pointing out the mistake. I shall try to edit my post. I don't want to confuse others.

(2) All your sentences seem great.

(a) I have a question only about "You wish you played this good."

(1) I feel that it should be "well."

(a) You seem interested in the word "this."

(i) As I understand it, "this" is sometimes an adverb. It = so.

(a) You wish you played so well.

(3) Thanks again for teaching me about "wish" vs. "wished."

Have a nice day!
 

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(1) I thank you for pointing out the mistake. I shall try to edit my post. I don't want to confuse others.

I'm sorry to interrupt to a thread that I'll not make a contribution in a linguistic aspect, but, to me, the other way round of what you have said would be correct. If you edited a post and corrected the mistake that had pointed out by another poster, this would cause a confusion. Because others (especially, the non-native members) would take a look where the mistake is, and if it was corrected, they take the corrected one for the incorrect. So, the right thing to do (at least, it's my opinion) is to leave the post as it is unless another poster doesn't point out any mistakes on that post.

I hope I've managed to tell what I meant to say without being misunderstood. (it does happen once in a while since sometimes I can't pick the right words or the right phrasals)
 

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I'm sorry to interrupt to a thread that I'll not make a contribution in a linguistic aspect, but, to me, the other way round of what you have said would be correct. If you edited a post and corrected the mistake that had pointed out by another poster, this would cause a confusion. Because others (especially, the non-native members) would take a look where the mistake is, and if it was corrected, they take the corrected one for the incorrect. So, the right thing to do (at least, it's my opinion) is to leave the post as it is unless another poster doesn't point out any mistakes on that post.

I hope I've managed to tell what I meant to say without being misunderstood. (it does happen once in a while since sometimes I can't pick the right words or the right phrasals)

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Good afternoon, euncu.

(1) Thank you for your excellent suggestion.

(2) What a coincidence. I also thought the same thing: editing out the mistake might confuse some readers.

(3) But I decided that , all things considered, it would be better if I edited out any obvious errors.

(4) Thanks again for your valuable input. I really enjoy reading your very useful replies to those of us who are continually trying to better our knowledge of this marvelous language.
 

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Nightmare once again :up:

This is what I have found about your question:
In an informal style, this and that are often used with adjectives and adverbs in the same way as so

I didn't realize it was going to be this hot
If your boy-friend's that clever, why isn't he rich?


Not all that can be used to mean "not very"

How was the play? - Not all that good

Besides, we know that we do something well but a thing is good.
As a rule "good" is not used to describe verbs.

  • Exceptions: verbs of sensation:
The homemade cookies smell good
with linking verbs:
I feel good

Following these rules, a "well" should be the right answer. :roll: :-D

I'll follow this thread ;-) Neither a teacher nor a native English speaker

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(2) What a coincidence. I also thought the same thing: editing out the mistake might confuse some readers.

And coincidentally, while reading your post, I've noticed the mistakes I made in my post from typos to grammatical ones.

(4) Thanks again for your valuable input. I really enjoy reading your very useful replies to those of us who are continually trying to better our knowledge of this marvelous language.

Thank you for your kind and encouraging remarks.
 

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Good afternoon, nightmare.

(1) I thank you for pointing out the mistake. I shall try to edit my post. I don't want to confuse others.

(2) All your sentences seem great.

(a) I have a question only about "You wish you played this good."

(1) I feel that it should be "well."

(a) You seem interested in the word "this."

(i) As I understand it, "this" is sometimes an adverb. It = so.

(a) You wish you played so well.

(3) Thanks again for teaching me about "wish" vs. "wished."

Have a nice day!

Hello and thanks,
Yes, I also have the feeling.
You wish you played so well.
This sounds fully okay to me.
You wish you played this well.
I don't know, maybe it sounds strange to me, but I can imagine it's correct...

Cheers!
 

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Hello and thanks,
You wish you played this well.
I don't know, maybe it sounds strange to me, but I can imagine it's correct...

Cheers!

I agree. There is no reason why ‘this well’ will be incorrect. Both ‘this’ and ‘that’ at times act as adverb. To me, “You wish you played that well.” sounds better.

 

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Hello,
I guess and hope that these both sentences are correct too:
He wishes he played that well.
He wishes he played this well.


(I'm not fully sure if wish is an exception, though...)

Cheers!
 

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Hello,
I guess and hope that these both sentences are correct too:
He wishes he played that well.
He wishes he played this well.

(I'm not fully sure if wish is an exception, though...)

Cheers!

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

Good morning, Nightmare85.

(1) It's great that you want to really understand this matter.

(2) Perhaps I am not reading your post correctly, but the verb "wish" has nothing to do with either "this well" or "that well."

(3) Let's use some other verbs:

You speak GOOD English. (adjective describes your English)

Wow! You speak English WELL. (adverb tells how you speak the international language)

I HOPE that someday I will be able to speak English THAT WELL.

I'm very sorry, but the coach SAYS that you do not play THAT WELL. So you cannot be on the team.

Hey! Listen to me play the piano. I BET that you cannot play THIS WELL.

Thank you.
 

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Thanks Parser,
But I only wanted to know if the word wishes is okay in these sentences :)
Some other examples:
He wishes he were here.
He wishes he played that well.
She wishes I were here boyfriend.

She wishes I bought here this pearl necklet.

I believe wishes is correct.

Edit
She wishes I were her boyfriend. -> now it's correct :)

Cheers!
 
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Thanks Parser,
But I only wanted to know if the word wishes is okay in these sentences :)
Some other examples:
He wishes he were here.
He wishes he played that well.
She wishes I were here boyfriend.

She wishes I bought here this pearl necklet.

I believe wishes is correct.

Cheers!

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

(1) I believe that your sentences with "wishes" are correct.

(2) I think you mistyped "her."

(3) Did you mean a "pearl necklace"?

(a) Thank you for teaching me a new word: necklet. In my many (many!) years of life, I had never heard that word. I hurried to my dictionary and learned it means something around the neck, such as a fur piece.

Have a nice day!
 

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Hello,

Yes, I wrote here instead of her.
You're right, is has to be her :up:

Hehe, I just went to my favorite dictionary and wanted to translate:
German: Perlenkette
English: chaplet, bead chain, pearl necklace, pearl necklet.
I just picked one word :)

Thank you!

Cheers!
 
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