Cockney punter

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Our teachers at LT&C had their A levels and the odd teaching certificate.
It is astonishing how a black crepe robe worn over a coat or a
blouse gives a Cockney punter or a Covent Garden flower girl the gravitas
of an Oxford don. Accent be damned in Africa, as long as it’s foreign
and you have the right skin color.


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Can anyone help me with the highlighted expression?


Our teachers at LT&C had their A levels and the odd teaching certificate.
It is astonishing how a black crepe robe worn over a coat or a
blouse gives a Cockney punter or a Covent Garden flower girl the gravitas
of an Oxford don. Accent be damned in Africa, as long as it’s foreign
and you have the right skin color.


Thank you very much

A Cockney is someone from East London (specifically someone who was born within earshot of the Bow Bells) - though completely unfairly, it is usually considered that Cockneys are lower class and less well-educated than some other Londoners.

A "punter" is a slang word for a customer (more rudely, specifically, sometimes a man who visits prostitutes).

The article suggests that putting on the black robe of a university graduate means that you can no longer tell what class or educational level someone is.
 

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The use of the word punter is a little strange to me- it does mean customer, but I think that something like stallholder/market trader, etc, might fit better as these would be more likely to be heard, like the flower girl, as they tried to sell things, rather than the customer.
 

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The use of the word punter is a little strange to me- it does mean customer, but I think that something like stallholder/market trader, etc, might fit better as these would be more likely to be heard, like the flower girl, as they tried to sell things, rather than the customer.
I agree, I wonder where this text comes from. Perhaps the OP will enlighten us. Maybe the author meant cockney "coster" which is short for "costermonger" the old term for an east-end market trader or "barrow-boy".
 

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The use of the word punter is a little strange to me- it does mean customer, but I think that something like stallholder/market trader, etc, might fit better as these would be more likely to be heard, like the flower girl, as they tried to sell things, rather than the customer.

I agree with you. Customer seems like a strange word (slang or otherwise) to use here. I checked every slang dictionary etc I could find, but could find no suggestion that punter is ever used to mean "seller". Various other meanings aside customer, but none that fit.
 

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I agree, I wonder where this text comes from. Perhaps the OP will enlighten us. Maybe the author meant cockney "coster" which is short for "costermonger" the old term for an east-end market trader or "barrow-boy".

It's from Abraham Verghese's novel "Cutting for Stone".
 

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It's from Abraham Verghese's novel "Cutting for Stone".
Ok, I see, so he's not British and may not know the exact terms very well.
 
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