Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 29
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Ukrainian
      • Home Country:
      • Ukraine
      • Current Location:
      • Ukraine

    • Join Date: Sep 2010
    • Posts: 3,469
    #1

    awkward sentences help needed

    Here are the sentences from texts we were given to translate

    1) "It was long since I had last seen her and if someone had not mentioned her name I hardly think I would have recognized her." There is something wrong in this sentence with "It was a long time since I had last seen her". Guess it's incorrect. On top of that, this part sounds weird to me "I hardly think I would have recognized her"????

    2)"We're none of us getting younger."?? I would have said "None of us is getting younger." OK?
    Last edited by ostap77; 26-Nov-2010 at 12:29.

  1. Newbie
    Interested in Language
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Chinese
      • Home Country:
      • Malaysia
      • Current Location:
      • Malaysia

    • Join Date: Nov 2010
    • Posts: 3
    #2

    Re: awkward sentences help needed

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Here are the sentences from texts we were given to translate

    1) "It was long since I had last seen her and if someone had not mentioned her name I hardly think I would have recognized her." There is something wrong in this sentence with "It was a long time since I had last seen her". Guess it's incorrect. On top of that, this part sund wierd for me "I hardly think I would have recognized her"????

    i would say: It has been long since i last saw her.

    2)"We're none of us getting younger."?? I would have said "None of us is getting younger." OK?
    agree with you.

  2. 5jj's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Oct 2010
    • Posts: 28,134
    #3

    Re: awkward sentences help needed

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    1. "We're none of us getting younger."?? I would have said 2. "None of us is getting younger." OK?
    #1 is idiomatic but fine, and not uncommon.
    #2 is also fine.

    It is also common to put any in front of the comparitive adjective.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Ukrainian
      • Home Country:
      • Ukraine
      • Current Location:
      • Ukraine

    • Join Date: Sep 2010
    • Posts: 3,469
    #4

    Re: awkward sentences help needed

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    #1 is idiomatic but fine, and not uncommon.
    #2 is also fine.

    It is also common to put any in front of the comparitive adjective.
    What do you think about grammar in the first sentence "It was a long time since I had last seen her" kind of unusual? Is it OK to say " I hardly think I would have recognized her"? I would have said "I think I would have hardly recognized her"?

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Hungarian
      • Home Country:
      • Europe
      • Current Location:
      • Europe

    • Join Date: Apr 2010
    • Posts: 338
    #5

    Re: awkward sentences help needed

    *** NOT A TEACHER ***


    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    There is something wrong in this sentence with "It was a long time since I had last seen her". Guess it's incorrect.
    Not, it isn't. The quoted sentence is from a narrative. The Past Perfect puts the second part before the narrative point, which is past.

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    On top of that, this part sounds weird to me "I hardly think I would have recognized her"????
    It's also fine as it is. In my humble opinion, "hardly" plays similar role as "don't" would do. Consider this, "I don't think I would have recognized her".



    PS: Incidentally, it is from "The Luncheon" by William Somerset Maugham.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Ukrainian
      • Home Country:
      • Ukraine
      • Current Location:
      • Ukraine

    • Join Date: Sep 2010
    • Posts: 3,469
    #6

    Re: awkward sentences help needed

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Mav~ View Post
    *** NOT A TEACHER ***



    Not, it isn't. The quoted sentence is from a narrative. The Past Perfect puts the second part before the narrative point, which is past.


    It's also fine as it is. In my humble opinion, "hardly" plays similar role as "don't" would do. Consider this, "I don't think I would have recognized her".



    PS: Incidentally, it is from "The Luncheon" by William Somerset Maugham.
    Do we use since + the past perfect in coversation? I've never heard that one. Did anyone ever hear that?
    Last edited by ostap77; 26-Nov-2010 at 21:23.

  3. 5jj's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Oct 2010
    • Posts: 28,134
    #7

    Re: awkward sentences help needed

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Do we use since + the past perfect in coversation. I've never heard that one. Did anyone ever hear that?
    If by that one you mean since + past perfect, yes. I use it when it's appropriate. I have heard many others use it. It is not quite as commonly used in real life as the grammar books suggest, but it's there.

    We don't notice it sometimes because the 'd is often hard to hear, especially before words beginning with a /d/ or /t/ sound

  4. Senior Member
    Interested in Language
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Serbo-Croatian
      • Home Country:
      • Bosnia Herzegovina
      • Current Location:
      • Bosnia Herzegovina

    • Join Date: Nov 2007
    • Posts: 844
    #8

    Re: awkward sentences help needed

    /A learner/

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Here are the sentences from texts we were given to translate

    1) "It was long since I had last seen her and if someone had not mentioned her name I hardly think I would have recognized her."
    I'd say

    It took long since I'd seen her and hadn't someone mentioned the name I think I'd have hardly recognised her.


    In addition, ho_jc, if you used

    It has been long since i last saw her.

    how would you continue with the rest

    and if someone had not mentioned her name I hardly think I would have recognized her.


    ?
    Last edited by e2e4; 26-Nov-2010 at 16:29.

  5. lauralie2's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Canada
      • Current Location:
      • China

    • Join Date: Dec 2009
    • Posts: 774
    #9

    Re: awkward sentences help needed

    Agreed, "We're none of us getting younger" is odd, to me (it doesn't ring North American English). The grammar I get; it's fine. It's the contraction "We're" for We are that's different.

  6. 5jj's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Oct 2010
    • Posts: 28,134
    #10

    Re: awkward sentences help needed

    Quote Originally Posted by lauralie2 View Post
    Agreed, "We're none of us getting younger" is odd, to me (it doesn't ring North American English). The grammar I get; it's fine. It's the contraction "We're" for We are that's different.
    I can live with the contaction there though I'd prefer any in front of younger, as I mentioned previously.


    I can't accept the contraction in e2e4's:

    hadn't someone mentioned her name I think I'd have hardly recognised her.

    It's OK with: If someone hadn't mentioned her name I think I'd have hardly recognised her.

    However when we use inversion and omit if, I feel that contraction is not acceptable. We must say:

    Had not someone mentioned ..

    It sound awkward, but the alternative is possibly ambiguous:

    Had someone not mentioned ...

    Apart from in discussions such as this, I would always use the if constructions for negatives.

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. [Grammar] some awkward questions
    By wahaha in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 23-Jun-2010, 06:59
  2. awkward
    By awatef in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 19-Aug-2008, 00:01
  3. 'Only' looks awkward for me
    By shadik1 in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 13-Mar-2008, 14:19
  4. Awkward
    By nyggus in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-Jun-2006, 18:23
  5. awkward
    By Anonymous in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 19-May-2004, 02:58

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •