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    #1

    Until now, v. hitherto v. as yet v. heretofore v. so far

    I try to form a sentence to understand some time adverbs.

    1. Until now, I have never been in a foreign country.

    Is this sentece correct?

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    #2

    Re: Until now, v. hitherto v. as yet v. heretofore v. so far

    I would only say that if I had just arrived in my first foreign country, and in that case it would be more natural to say 'This is the first time I have ever been in a foreign country'.

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    Re: Until now, v. hitherto v. as yet v. heretofore v. so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    I would only say that if I had just arrived in my first foreign country, and in that case it would be more natural to say 'This is the first time I have ever been in a foreign country'.
    No, you are not there, for example, you are speaking with tourists, you are still your country and have never been in a foreign country. I remember I said something like this to two Belgium tourists and they had understood me.

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    Re: Until now, v. hitherto v. as yet v. heretofore v. so far

    Yes, you will be understood, but the present perfect is unlikely to be appropriate with such expressions as 'before' if you are still in your home country. It might just work if the words are uttered in the departure lounge at the airport.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 25-Mar-2017 at 09:03.

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    Re: Until now, v. hitherto v. as yet v. heretofore v. so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    Yes, you will be understood, but the present perfect is unlikely to be appropriate with such expressions as 'before' if you are still in your nome country. It might just work if the words are uttered in the departure lounge at the airport.
    Then what is the appropriate way of expressing that idea?

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    Re: Until now, v. hitherto v. as yet v. heretofore v. so far

    Don't use "Until now". The grammar of present perfect already means until now.

    Just say I have never been in a foreign country or I have never been abroad or I have never left Turkey.

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    Re: Until now, v. hitherto v. as yet v. heretofore v. so far

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Don't use "Until now". The grammar of present perfect already means until now.

    Just say I have never been in a foreign country or I have never been abroad or I have never left Turkey.
    I thought saying "until now" is important but I now see that it is incorrect, at least over-written.

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    Re: Until now, v. hitherto v. as yet v. heretofore v. so far

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    I thought saying "until now" is important but I now see that it is incorrect, at least over-written.
    It's incorrect.
    I am not a teacher.

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