[Grammar] Admission List

[kadioguy]

Admission List
The 9th International Conference on ACG Studies

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Why isn't there a 'the' before 'Admission List'? Could I add one if I were the author?

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(The source)

 

[GoesStation]

No article is possible in that heading. If it said "The Admission List", the reader would wonder where this "list" had been described previously and why it had to be distinguished from other lists.

 

[kadioguy]

No article is possible in that heading. If it said "The Admission List", the reader would wonder where this "list" had been described previously and why it had to be distinguished from other lists.

So do you mean there could be several 'List', and "Admission List" is one of them?

 

[GoesStation]

So do you mean there could be several 'Lists', and "Admission List" is one of them?

Yes. But even if that were the case, it wouldn't be appropriate to use the article in the heading. "Admission List", by itself, would tell the reader which list was below it.

 

[kadioguy]

Can I say that 'Admission List' here is used like a proper noun?

 

[kadioguy]

OK, but I am still a little confused. We say 'a shopping/wine/price list' (with an article), so I wonder why that is not the case in the expression 'Admission List'. :-?

In which context do we need an article before 'Admission List'? Could you give an example?

 

[jutfrank]

Can I say that 'Admission List' here is used like a proper noun?

I say yes. I'm not sure whether or not something like this can technically be called a proper noun, but I think you're thinking in the right way, regardless.

 

[jutfrank]

In which context do we need an article before 'Admission List'? Could you give an example?

When we're referring to it. The word the is used in reference to something. Have you seen the admission list?

Think of this use of Admission List as the name of the list. For that reason, it doesn't require an article, and uses capital letters like any other title or heading.

 

[kadioguy]

How about thinking this way?

In titles/headers we do not use articles for the head noun. If being added one, it would look odd.

[Cross-posted with jutfrank]

 

[GoesStation]

How about thinking this way?
In titles/headers we do not use articles for the head noun. If [STRIKE]being added[/STRIKE] one were added, it would look odd.

See above. I'm not sure whether I agree with your proposed rule. I'll have to think about it.

 

[emsr2d2]

OK, but I am still a little confused. We say 'a shopping/wine/price list' (with an article), ...

That's true in a complete sentence. At the top of your shopping list, you would just write "Shopping List".

 

[kadioguy]

(a)
Admission List
The 9th International Conference on ACG Studies

(b)
14th Annual International Conference on Global Studies
18-21 December 2020, Athens, Greece
https://www.atiner.gr/cbc

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Why does (a) contain a 'the' before '9th International Conference' while (b) doesn't contain one before '14th Annual International Conference' ? Which use is correct?

 

[tedmc]

A title does not require an article. It is not like it is part of a sentence. It does not have to be grammatical. It is just like when you write simple things like "Things To Do" or "Shopping List". Or "How to Bake a Cake".

You are about right to think of it as a proper noun.

 

[kadioguy]

A title does not require an article. It is not like it is part of a sentence. It does not have to be grammatical. It is just like when you write simple things like "Things To Do" or "Shopping List". Or "How to Bake a Cake".

You are about right to think of it as a proper noun.

How about these?

(a) The 9th International Conference on ACG Studies

(b) 14th Annual International Conference on Global Studies

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Is the 'the' necessary? Or maybe neither one is incorrect, and we can interchange them because it's only a title.

What do you think?

 

[tedmc]

How about these?

(a) The 9th International Conference on ACG Studies

(b) 14th Annual International Conference on Global Studies

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Is the 'the' necessary? Or maybe neither one is incorrect, and we can interchange them because it's only a title.

What do you think?

If I were you, I wouldn't spend too much time thinking about names and titles. There are no hard and fast rules. It is up to the organizers of conferences to give names. It is just like museums being given names, some with a definite article and others without (there was a thread about this).

 

[GoesStation]

How about these?

(a) The 9th International Conference on ACG Studies

(b) 14th Annual International Conference on Global Studies

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Is the 'the' necessary? Or maybe neither one is incorrect, and we can interchange them because it's only a title.

What do you think?

"The" is presumably included in the first because it's part of the conference's name.