all the same

[jasonlulu_2000]

https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2020/02/20/whose-internet-is-it-anyway

When your home market is small or poor, it is hard to build global firms. All the same, even if the business of the internet remains anchored in California, its culture is expanding all the time, confounding the Silicon Valley types who thought they owned it.

I cannot figure out the logic behind the underlined sentence.

What exact meaning does the underlined sentence want to convey?

Thanks!

Jason

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

All the same = still / even so / regardless / nonetheless / nevertheless

even if = although

the business of the internet = high tech / dot coms / Big Tech / worldwide web companies /web practices /web resources

remains = is still / continues to be

anchored in California = based in Silicon Valley / rooted around the Bay Area / situated in the Golden Gate State

its culture = its lifestyle / its practices / its influence

is expanding = is going beyond California to other regions

all the time = coninuously / constantly / every day

Jason, what part confuses you? What wasn't in your dictionary?

 

[jasonlulu_2000]

Jason, what part confuses you? What wasn't in your dictionary?

Many thanks for your detailed explanation!

So "all the same" here means "however"?

I think I am confused by the use of "all the same". I thought it means "similarly or equally". The sentence before it mentions "A small and poor home market will find it hard to expand its global influence". The underlined sentence means " the regionally-based Internet industry easily expands its global influence." The two sentences are linked by "all the same". That's where I was confused.

So it implies that California's home market is big and rich, which is a stark contrast to a poor and small home market?

Thanks!

Jason

 

[Rover_KE]

So "all the same" here means "however"?

How do you deduce that from CB's excellent analysis?

 

[jutfrank]

So "all the same" here means "however"?

I think I am confused by the use of "all the same". I thought it means "similarly or equally".

No, it is not similar to however.

See Charlie Bernstein's excellent alternatives in post #2 above.

 

[jasonlulu_2000]

No, it is not similar to however.

See Charlie Bernstein's excellent alternatives in post #2 above.

Thanks for your reminder. I believe I understood most of the words.

So "all the same" means "even so or nevertheless". Do the two sentences imply that "the internet industry" belongs to the category of "home market which is either poor or small"?

Then the author uses "all the same" to give the readers a different result. That is, even their home market is poor or small, their cultural influence has gone beyond the home market.

Am I right?

Sorry for my persistence.

I appreciate this wonderful platform where non-native English learners can get their language puzzles solved. For non-natives, it is some delicate difference between words that presents the biggest challenge. Sometimes it is not that obvious as you assert. Sometimes, I need more patience and elaboration.

Thanks to all who will help.

Jason

 

[jutfrank]

This is a very hard sentence to understand, Jason. In fact, I'm tempted to argue that it doesn't quite make sense, so I think your question is a very good one. I'll try to paraphrase what I think is the gist of the sentence in a simplified way:

Even though it's hard to build a global business in a relatively isolated market like China, it is still possible, since the culture of Silicon Valley has moved outside of the geographic area of California into the wider globalised world.

The linker Even though in my sentence corresponds loosely to All the same in the original text.