and in some traditions [?] at the beginning all these,

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Could you please help me to tell what is spoken in the video at the point which I designated with the square brackets and question mark in the transcribed text? Thank you.

Relax the Mind with Mingyur Rinpoche (5:37)
"Then, of course we have eight or nine yanas, all this, and in some traditions in Tibet it is very important to achieve at least the first yana or something like that, and in some traditions [?] at the beginning all these, just combined together from the beginning, union."
 
I think he says "no need of this". But I'm not really sure.
 
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