[Grammar] Conspire and bring down

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They are conspiring with some political parties, in order to bring Sultan Abdulhamid down and debilitate the state. Because he doesn't sell a single inch of the Palestine.

What can I use else, instead of "conspire" and "bring down" ? Are they true words?
 
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There is nothing wrong with "conspire" and "bring down". However, the comma after "parties" is incorrect, as is the article before "Palestine". Also, there should be the indefinite article "a" before "single". I would prefer a semi-colon to the full stop after "state".
 
Hello Turkish is the best,

Firstly who are "they" in your sentence?

conspire is a proper word and bring down is a well known and acceptable phrase. However, I would say that bring down is more often used in relation to governments rather than monarchs. Where a ruler is concerned you are more likely to hear the words depose and overthrow used. Once they have been deposed they are then usually forced to abdicate.

You could use collude in place of conspire.
 
How about this:

They are conspiring with some political parties in order to bring Sultan Abdulhamid down and debilitate the state; because he doesn't sell a land single inch of the Palestine.
 
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How [STRIKE]abaut[/STRIKE] about [STRIKE]it:[/STRIKE] this?

They are conspiring with some political parties [STRIKE]in order[/STRIKE] to bring down Sultan Abdulhamid [STRIKE]down[/STRIKE] and debilitate the state; because he [STRIKE]doesn't[/STRIKE] ​won't sell a [STRIKE]land[/STRIKE] single inch of [STRIKE]the[/STRIKE] Palestinian land.

See above for my corrections to your opening sentence and also the changes I have made to the main text. I see no need for "in order". They are conspiring to bring down ...
Having said that, I too think that "overthrow" or "depose" would work better there.

You didn't answer Eckaslike's question - who are "They"?
 
İt is a part of Turkish historical documentary.
I meant " The Jews" when I said " They are" .
 
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or destabilise the state
 
İt is a part of Turkish historical documentary.
I meant " The Jews" when I said " They are" .

All of them? I find a sentence glibly stating that the Jews are conspiring unpleasant.
 
All of them? I find a sentence glibly stating that the Jews are conspiring unpleasant.

I don't know all of them or not. :) Probably not, when we say "Turks have captured the Constantinople" we don't mean each of Turks but it takes "Turkish people" in "Turks". Also I am talking about history, there are a lot of facts that people don't like to hear.
 
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There are also a lot of "facts" that people make up or embellish.
 
İf you mean "dissemble" with "make up" Vietnamese, gulf and ıraq wars are good examples of recent history.
 
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This is not a political forum. It is a language forum.
 
There are also a lot of "facts" that people make up or embellish.

You should think that before your comment. I wasn't making political statements, I only was asking some questions about sentences, I agree with you, it is a language forum.
 
I made a neutral comment about the use of the word "facts". You reacted badly to that.
 
Ok, it was my fault.
 
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That should be "fault".
 
Israel is somewhat a special case, as their religion has historically been an important part of their national identity- much more so than in other countries. Still, I recommend you refer in this case to actions 'by the Israeli government' rather than by Jews. I am confident that there are many, many Jews worldwide who oppose the actions you are writing about.

There are many people in Turkey who will say they like Americans, but do not approve of the actions of our government.
 
It is still not a political forum. Please leave it alone.
 
MikeNewYork, please stop leaping into every post, I am pretty sure everbody knows their place. İf there is anything wrong, let mods say.​
 
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