fly v. float

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Something is wrong. All verb definitions are not related for this situation.

  • [h=6]transitive verb[/h]
  • 1: to place (an issue of securities) on the market
  • 2: to obtain money for the establishment or development of (an enterprise) by issuing and selling securities
  • 3: negotiate 1 float a loan

  • : to rest on the surface of a liquid Cork floats in water.
  • 2: to be carried along by or as if by moving water or air The raft floated downstream.Leaves floated down.
  • 3: to cause to rest on or be carried by water Lumberjacks float logs down the river.

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A flag flies or flutters; float is not a natural collocation for what flags do.
 

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A flag flies or flutters; float is not a natural collocation for what flags do.

Yes, the flags does not float but the definition of fly involves to float.

[FONT=&quot]c[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]:[/FONT][FONT=&quot] to float, wave, or soar in the air [/FONT][FONT=&quot]flags flying at half-mast[/FONT]


This is confusing for me. So I would like to ask again. When a flag flies, does it also float? Or which of the following does it do being related to the definition?

a) to float
b) to wave
c) to soar

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When a flag flies, does it also float?

In post #4, Rover wrote "float is not a natural collocation for what flags do". Having read that, why would you ask it again?
 

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In post #4, Rover wrote "float is not a natural collocation for what flags do". Having read that, why would you ask it again?

Well, I will try to explain. Yes, a flag flies. But that meaning of fly means "c: to float, wave, or soar in the air flags flying at half-mast"

Because the definition of fly in this sense contains a) to float b) to wave c) to soar this makes me think that when a flag flies, it should also do three of these.

Is it O.K? It is not important to be natural. I am just asking that which of them a flag do.

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You took the definition too literally. "A flag flying" may look like it is "floating" but they are not substitutes. That's why in post 2 I posted the definitions of "float" so you could draw the conclusions yourself.
 
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A flag is attached to the flagpole, so it doesn't really float. It may appear to do so in the breeze, but its movements are too restricted to say that it truly floats, and its movements don't really resemble those of an object on the surface of a liquid.
 

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It is not important to be natural.

You'll be disappointed with many of our comments and corrections if you believe that that is true. It is important to learn not just what is grammatically correct but also what is natural.
 

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You took the definition too literally. "A flag flying" may look like it is "floating" but they are not substitutes. That's why in post 2 I posted the definitions of "float" so you could draw the conclusions yourself.

Yes, I have drawn the conclusion that the definition is wrong or at least very confusing.

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It is not important to be natural. I am just asking that which of them a flag do.

These aren't as separate as you imply to me.
 
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