for helping whom

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navi tasan

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Which are correct?

1) These are the people for helping whom I borrowed the money.
2) These are the people for the helping of whom I borrowed the money.

3) This is the prisoner for helping whom I was arrested.
4) This is the prisoner for the helping of whom I was arrested.
5) This is the prisoner I was arrested for helping.
 
Which are correct?

1) These are the people for helping whom I borrowed the money. ❌
2) These are the people for the helping of whom I borrowed the money. ❌

3) This is the prisoner for helping whom I was arrested. ❌
4) This is the prisoner for the helping of whom I was arrested. ❌
5) This is the prisoner I was arrested for helping. ✅
The correct version of the first two is "These are the people I borrowed money to help".

What are you trying to practise here?
 
Thank you emsr2d2,

I was trying to see if a structure that existed in my languages existed in English. My mind takes that route, if you will. I have to learn not to use that structure.
 
I was trying to see if a structure that existed in my languages existed in English. My mind takes that route, if you will. I have to learn not to use that structure.

I think it would be nice if you tell us what you are thinking in post #1 of all your threads. I think it would help you get more effective answers, and sooner.
 
Thank you very much, Jutfrank,

Will do. I was trying to be as brief as possible so as not to waste anyone's time. But I think I end up confusing people. I will try to explain why I am asking the question I am asking.
 
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Thank you very much, Jutfrank,

Will do. I was trying to be as brief as possible so as not to waste anyone's time. But I think I end up confusing people. I will try to explain why I am asking the question I am asking.
"For helping whom/for the helping of whom" are totally incomprehensible.
Write in shorter sentences rather than cram too many things in one sentence and you'll be more likely to be understood.
 
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"For helping whom/for the helping of whom" are totally incomprehensible.
Write in shorter sentences rather than cram too many things in one sentence and you'll be more likely to be understood.
That reminds me of two things I have often said on this forum. (See below.)

1. Write shorter, simpler sentences.
2. You don't have to put everything into one sentence.
 
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