for the long haul vs.for the long run

[GoodTaste]

Are "for the long haul" and "for the long run" exchangeable here?

Generally, we use "in the long run" - but the phrase seems not very suitable here.

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How the pandemic might play out in 2021 and beyond
This coronavirus is here for the long haul — here’s what scientists predict for the next months and years.
June 2021. The world has been in pandemic mode for a year and a half. The virus continues to spread at a slow burn; intermittent lockdowns are the new normal. An approved vaccine offers six months of protection, but international deal-making has slowed its distribution. An estimated 250 million people have been infected worldwide, and 1.75 million are dead.

Source: Nature 05 AUGUST 2020
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02278-5

 

[GoodTaste]

No.
have you looked up 'long haul' in a couple of the dictionaries at www.onelook.com?

[FONT=&quot]A prolonged and difficult effort or task?[/FONT]

 

[tedmc]

"Long haul" is usually associated with "long haul flights" which are long and tedious. Similarly, the virus pandemic is expected to drag on as it does not seem to let up, with resurgence constantly being reported all over the world.

 

[GoesStation]

"Long haul" is usually associated with "long haul flights" which are long and tedious.

No it isn't. It's widely used in other contexts.

 

[GoesStation]

[FONT=&quot]A prolonged and difficult effort or task?[/FONT]

Have you found a definition that says the task is difficult?

 

[tedmc]

No it isn't. It's widely used in other contexts.

I did not say that it isn't. Okay, it tends to be associated with "long haul flights".

 

[GoesStation]

I did not say that it isn't. Okay, it tends to be associated with "long haul flights".

That is one of many contexts in which the phrase is used.

 

[GoodTaste]

Have you found a definition that says the task is difficult?

I don't understand you. This definition (long haul: a prolonged and difficult effort or task unambiguously expresses it is a prolonged and difficult effort or (a prolonged and difficult) task. It is given by Oxford Dictionaries.

 

[PeterCW]

No it isn't. It's widely used in other contexts.

But it is the context in which a non native speaker is most likely to encounter the phrase.

 

[GoodTaste]

So far, the question of this thread remains as it is: unresolved.

 

[emsr2d2]

"In the long run" and "in it for the long haul" are not remotely interchangeable. They don't mean the same thing at all.

 

[GoodTaste]

Cambridge Dictionary has this definition:
the long haul:
a period of years, rather than days, weeks, or months:
I want to invest my money for the long haul, not just to get richquick.

If so, "for the long haul" stills means "for the long run".

And let's retake a look into the OP, this definition seems to be perfectly suitable in the context there:

This coronavirus is here for the long haul — here’s what scientists predict for the next months and years.

 

[GoodTaste]

No, it doesn't. See post #12.

That doesn't define what is "for the long haul". There are always countless "Nos" to a question and only one "Yes" to it. Now the "Yes" is hiding.

 

[SoothingDave]

GoodTaste, I suspect that people are going to stop responding to your posts. Since you do not listen to our answers and seem to think you know better.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

I did not say that it isn't. Okay, it tends to be associated with "long haul flights".

Well, sure. But that doesn't mean we only use it talk about flying. That's like saying we only use cream to talk about coffee.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

I don't understand you. This definition (long haul: a prolonged and difficult effort or task unambiguously expresses it is a prolonged and difficult effort or (a prolonged and difficult) task. It is given by Oxford Dictionaries.

Exactly. Now look up long run.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

But it is the context in which a non native speaker is most likely to encounter the phrase.

I don't see why. It's used for countless contexts, not just air transit.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

I did not say that it isn't. Okay, it tends to be associated with "long haul flights".

Not any more than it's associated with any other context.

Originally, it was a railroad term. But over time, it came to mean the definition GoodTaste posted. Today, few people think of trains when they say, "long haul."

(You didn't, right?)

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

"Long haul" is usually associated with "long haul flights" . . . .

Again, no. You're misleading GoodTaste.

GoodTaste, have you looked up long run yet to see the difference?

 

[GoodTaste]

Again, no. You're misleading GoodTaste.

GoodTaste, have you looked up long run yet to see the difference?

I did have looked up "long run" before posting.

"Long run" impresses me as "an activity over a long period of time" while "long haul" seems to imply both effort and time (both difficult and time-consuming). As Piscean pointed out:

As has already been mentioned, ' the long haul' can convey the ideas of ' a period of years, rather than days, weeks, or months' and 'a prolonged and difficult effort or task'