'Had never visited' or 'never visited' before

[subhajit123]

Hi everyone, 'had never visited' or 'never visited': Which one should I use in the following sentence?

1- Last year I visited Malaysia. I had never visited/never visited malaysia before.

My problem is with the word 'before'. I think before is used with the past perfect tense. Are they both correct?

 

[emsr2d2]

Only the past perfect works there. "Before" refers to the time before you visited Malaysia last year.

It would be impossible to say "Last year, I visited Malaysia. I have never visited Malaysia before" because the first half says you have been to Malaysia but the second half says you have never been.

 

[tedmc]

"Had never visited" is correct.
You can say "I have never visited Malaysia before that."
I think "I never visited.." is wrong in all circumstances.

 

[emsr2d2]

Sorry tedmc, but you can't say "I have never visited Malaysia before that". The use of "before that" at the end clearly refers to a past action so the words before it need to be in the past perfect.

I'm going to Malaysia next month. I'm really excited. I have never visited Malaysia before.
I visited Malaysia last month. It was great. I had never visited Malaysia before that.

 

[Rover_KE]

I'd avoid repeating 'visited Malaysia'.

'I visited Malaysia last month. I'd never been before.'

'I'm going to Malaysia next month. I've never been before.'

 

[tedmc]

Do you need a "there" after been?

 

[Rover_KE]

It's optional.

 

[GoesStation]

I'd avoid repeating 'visited Malaysia'.

'I visited Malaysia last month. I'd never been before.'

'I'm going to Malaysia next month. I've never been before.'

Do you need a "there" after been?

It's optional.

In American English, the sentences look odd (OK, "British" ) without it.