he is in paris or he has begun his trip?

[e2e4]

Look at what I have found in a book

Present Perfect

3. Gone and Been

Look at the difference between these two sentences:

He's been in Paris. (=He is now at home again.)
He's gone to Paris. (=He is in Paris now.)

He's been means 'he has finished his trip'.
He's gone means 'he has begun his trip'.

 

[corum]

He's gone to Paris. -- he is either there or on the way

He's been means 'he has finished his trip'.
He's gone means 'he has begun his trip'.

Yes.

 

[e2e4]

In the same book, I found this below as well.

Page 48, Chapter 22
Will and Shall

3. We use will to talk about future facts, and things that we think will happen in the future:

My father will be fifty years old tomorrow.

 

[e2e4]

He's gone to Paris. -- he is either there or on the way
Quote:
He's been means 'he has finished his trip'.
He's gone means 'he has begun his trip'.
Yes.

If you're right, they are not.

Could they know is he at his home again?

 

[corum]

If you're right, they are not.

It is your judgment call then who you choose to trust. I have nothing to add to my first post. BTW, who are "they"?

From now on, will you challenge all my posts?

 

[corum]

Could they know is he at his home again?

What is this supposed to mean?

 

[bhaisahab]

If you're right, they are not.

Could they know is he at his home again?

I'd be very interested to know who "they" are as well.

 

[Johnson_F]

I too, or even, if pushed, me too.

 

[e2e4]

It is your judgment call then who you choose to trust. I have nothing to add to my first post.

BTW, who are "they"?

"they" are the authors of the book. The authors said that if he has been in Paris he is at his home now.

From now on, will you challenge all my posts?
No, just a few of all those I don't understand.

What is this supposed to mean?

They said that
He's been means 'he has finished his trip'.
And a few lines earlier they had said
He's been in Paris. (=He is now at home again.)

How could the speakers know that he is at his home again?
Who said he even started the trip from his home?

In my opinion, that way confuses the learners so much.(especially me)
Because of that, afters years of learning, I still do not know how to use the present perfect properly.

Let me know what could be wrong with this conversation below, regarding the grammar.

A: Has he ever been in Paris?
B: Yes, he has.
A: When
B: He is still there.

 

[corum]

corum:

BTW, who are "they"?

answer:

"they" are the authors of the book. The authors said that if he has been in Paris he is at his home now.

This was cute.
Which book, for heaven's sake?

 

[corum]

A: Has he ever been in Paris?
B: Yes, he has.
A: When
B: Did you really not know? He is still there!

 

[corum]

HE has been in Paris could mean these:

1. He went there in the past and he is still there. However, in this case a temporal adverbial in the form of a prepositional phrase is usually present (for a long time, since April, etc.).
2. He went there and he came back. There is a sporting chance that he will go back sometime in the future.

He was in Paris means he is not there anymore.

The inserted adverbials and the surrounding context help the reader infer the intended meaning.

 

[e2e4]

/A learner/

HE has been in Paris could mean these:

1. He went there in the past and he is still there. However, in this case a temporal adverbial in the form of a prepositional phrase is usually present (for a long time, since April, etc.).
2. He went there and he came back. There is a sporting chance that he will go back sometime in the future.

3. He was in Paris means he is not there anymore.

The inserted adverbials and the surrounding context help the reader infer the intended meaning.

After a few years of learning the language, getting different opinions and thinking about the present perfect I see the matter this way below

After I've heard the sentence "He has been in Paris" I do not know whether he is still there or left or came back or something like that.
The present perfect tense tells us absolutely nothing about it.

If I am curious about it I ask additional question for I know nothing except he has been there.

In addition

Have you seen Peter recently?
Yes, I have. I visited his place and saw him there yesterday.
He was there for sure.

Does it mean that Peter has left his place afterwards and isn't there now, for sure?

Thanks