- Nov 27, 2010
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:up: The best-ever accent reduction course! There must have been a professional phonetician in the film crew - even though shown in fragments, the whole approach seems to cover the most crucial points in dealing with pronunciation....think of Pygmalion/My Fair Lady.
"I want to talk like a lady" (Pygmalion, Act II) ;-)There are many very successful English (I deliberately use that word rather than 'British') people who do not speak RP, and no serious linguist considers non-RP varieties in any way inferior. It is, however a fact (regrettable in my opinion) that for many years RP and similar southern British 'educated' varieties of English were, within England at least, considered to be a sign of intellectual superiority.
Well, nowadays, the variety of accents in the listening part could be one of the strongest reasons for (or against) a particular course book, but definitely not the only one. While 'accent awareness' should be developed, the teacher, imo, has to be realistic about the outcomes, especially when even native speakers might have difficulties in understanding certain 'heavy' accents.While listening materials provided with most modern course books do use speakers of other varieties of English, they mostly avoid the 'stronger' dialects, and the bulk of the listening material is roughly 'educated' southern English. As a result, many learners believe that RP and similar varieties are 'standard' British English, and they have genuine difficulties in understanding speakers of other varieties.
I assume there are other examples of casual pronunciation and would be genuinely grateful for any references, links or whatever for my Dip course.... /ŋ/ in 'bank' or 'in Cardiff' ... 'handbag' as /hæmbæg/...
:up: Absolutely! One cannot teach Maths without knowing the subject inside out, how could it be possible in terms of English?I have to admit that I am on one of my hobby-horses. I honestly don't care what method (grammar-translation, direct, audio-lingual, communicative, etc) a teacher uses, so long as the learner is enabled to communicate in English. I believe passionately that teachers, however they enable learning, must, in order to be able to do this, have a clear understanding themselves of the grammar of English and of the way in which native speakers actually produce the sounds of English.
I'd regard them as natural features of normal conversation rather than examples of 'casual pronunciation'. Except in formal speech, deliberate attempts to avoid such features can sound very stilted.I assume there are other examples of casual pronunciation and would be genuinely grateful for any references, links or whatever for my Dip course.
Thanks a lot. You are right, these books are on the core reading list (and my bedside table). Just with so much information available there's always a risk of missing something really important.I'd regard them as natural features of normal conversation rather than examples of 'casual pronunciation'. Except in formal speech, deliberate attempts to avoid such features can sound very stilted.
See what you can find out about such Aspects of Connected Speech as assimilation, elision, liking and juncture juncture.
My trainees used to find Gerald Kelly (2000) How to to Teach Pronunciation (Longman, 2000) very useful. It's on the lists of books recommended by many DELTA and Dip TESOL course providers.
[strike]dude[/strike] I am an Egyptian living in Egypt too. I got my British accent from movies and some British friend. [strike]and[/strike] Also check these links RP British Accent Training Part One - YouTube
British accent lesson (e-course) ? - YouTube
It will not take you too long if you already have an American accent.
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