I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used to it

[kadioguy]

I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.

https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/...agree-with-whoever-gave-you-that-advice/page2

1.
why not just say:

I would suggest that you see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.
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If the original sentence omitted 'be going to', what difference would happen?

2.
I am confused because I think 'suggest' here means 'propose'.

I would propose that you're going to/will see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.

It sounds strange to me.

Or does 'suggest' here mean 'think'?

I would think that you're going to/will see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.

What do you think?

 

[bhaisahab]

https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/...agree-with-whoever-gave-you-that-advice/page2

1.
why not just say:

I would suggest that you see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.
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If the original sentence omitted 'be going to', what difference would happen? The meaning would change completely. Can you think why?

2.
I am confused because I think 'suggest' here means 'propose'. No. Look at definition 3. in this link: https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/suggest

Bhai

 

[kadioguy]

The meaning would change completely. Can you think why?

a.
I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.
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Does it mean I think that perhaps you will see it a lot in the future ...?
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b.
I would suggest that you see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.
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Does it mean I think that you could go to see it a lot ...?

 

[GoesStation]

a.
I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.
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Does [STRIKE]it[/STRIKE] this mean I think that [STRIKE]perhaps[/STRIKE] you will see it a lot in the future ...?
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b.
I would suggest that you see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.
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Does [STRIKE]it[/STRIKE] this mean I think that you should go to see it a lot ...?

With my amendments, yes on both counts.

 

[kadioguy]

Does [STRIKE]it[/STRIKE] this mean ...

With my amendments, yes on both counts.

In my sentence Does it mean ..., I think the two its refers to the whole original sentence a and b respectively, so I think the two its are acceptable. What do you think?

 

[GoesStation]

In my sentence Does it mean ..., I think the two its refers to the whole original sentence a and b respectively, so I think the two its are acceptable. What do you think?

If you want to refer to both sentences you should write Do these​ mean ....

 

[kadioguy]

If you want to refer to both sentences you should write Do these​ mean ....

I mean the following:

a.
I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.
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Does it mean I think that you will see it a lot in the future ...?
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b.
I would suggest that you see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.
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Does it mean I think that you should go to see it a lot ...?


The blue it refers to sentence a, and the red it refers to sentence b. So I think the two its are acceptable. Use it or this (as you suggested) is OK. What do you think?

 

[GoesStation]

Only this is natural in both cases.

 

[kadioguy]

Only this is natural in both cases.

I looked up OALD online:

it
pronoun
used to refer to a fact or situation that is already known or happening


When the factory closes, it will mean 500 people losing their jobs.
Yes, I was at home on Sunday. What about it? (= Why do you ask?)
Stop it, you're hurting me!

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/it_1?q=it

 

[GoesStation]

The dictionary's examples are fine, but they are a little different from your post. Can you see the difference?

 

[kadioguy]

The dictionary's examples are fine, but they are a little different from your post. Can you see the difference?

Pardon me, but I can't see any difference. :-?

a.
'I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.'
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Does it mean I think that you will see it a lot in the future ...?
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b.
'I would suggest that you see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.'
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Does it mean I think that you should go to see it a lot ...?

 

[Raymott]

I didn't know my sentence was so confusing. I'll phrase it more simply.
"You will see this usage of 'would' a lot. You should get used to it.

I agree that it's technically ambiguous. 'It' could mean "the phrase", or "seeing the phrase". Pragmatically, they mean the same. It's unlikely that I would be suggesting that you should get used to the phrase, but not to seeing the phrase, or vice versa.

 

[kadioguy]

I agree that it's technically ambiguous. 'It' could mean "the phrase", or "seeing the phrase". Pragmatically, they mean the same. It's unlikely that I would be suggesting that you should get used to the phrase, but not to seeing the phrase, or vice versa.

Pardon me, but I don't know what you mean. :-?

I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used it.
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What confused me were the following:

1. what did 'suggest' here mean?
2. what was the difference between them?

I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used it.
I would suggest that you see it a lot, and that you should get used it.

 

[Raymott]

Pardon me, but I don't know what you mean. :-?

I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used it.
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What confused me were the following:

1. what did 'suggest' here mean?
2. what was the difference between them?

I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used it.
I would suggest that you see it a lot, and that you should get used it.

'Suggest' means 'think, believe' in the first clause, with the addition that I'm telling you what I think and believe. For the second clause, the suggestion also has the meaning of "I would advise you" - 'would' here having the meaning recently discussed.
2. Your first sentence is in the future 'tense'; your second is in the present.
I'm assuming that you know that 'will' and 'going to' both relate to the future. In this case, there's no subtle difference between them, and there's no point in asking why I used "going to" instead of 'will'. I just did.

Let me ask you something: Do you really not understand what I'm saying? The message is simple. There's no hidden meaning. You learnt something new, and I said i) you will see this a lot, and ii) you should get used to it. ii) is a direct consequence of i).
It's a trivial piece of advice that you should probably just ignore if you don't understand it. It's not at all important.

 

[GoesStation]

Pardon me, but I can't see any difference. :-?

a.
'I would suggest that you're going to see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.'
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Does it mean I think that you will see it a lot in the future ...?
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b.
'I would suggest that you see it a lot, and that you should get used to it.'
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Does it mean I think that you should go to see it a lot ...?

This thread has gotten very confusing because we're now mixing discussion of a question with discussion of how the question was written.

It doesn't work in your questions because too much typographical space comes between it and the phrases it refers to.

 

[kadioguy]

It doesn't work in your questions because too much typographical space comes between it and the phrases it refers to.

But I used it to refer to the whole sentence. Does too much typographical space come between it and the sentence it refers to?

 

[GoesStation]

But I used it to refer to the whole sentence. Does too much typographical space come between it and the sentence it refers to?

Yes.

 

[kadioguy]

Let me ask you something: Do you really not understand what I'm saying?

I understand most of your meaning, but some of it I don't understand.
Thank you for kindly reply.

 

[Tarheel]

Kadioguy using too many words can cause confusion. Always remember the KISS rule. (KISS - Keep it simple, stupid! ;-) )