"In frames of" or "in the frames of"

[Alvib]

Is it incorrect to say "in frames of"? Is there any difference between "in frames of" and "in the frames of"?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Barb_D]

We will need to see the entire sentence.

I can't think of when I would want to use this phrase.

 

[Alvib]

We will need to see the entire sentence.

I can't think of when I would want to use this phrase.

A sort of: "Politicians have to communicate with their colleagues in frames of/in the frames of international conferences". I am inclined to use "in frames of" in this case.

 

[Barb_D]

I'm sorry, Alvib.
You must think this means something that it does not. I don't know what you mean by this.

Do you mean "at international conferences"?
Do you mean "within the framework established by the organizers of conferences"?
Do you mean something else?

 

[Alvib]

I'm sorry, Alvib.
You must think this means something that it does not. I don't know what you mean by this.

Do you mean "at international conferences"?
Do you mean "within the framework established by the organizers of conferences"?
Do you mean something else?

"At international conferences".

 

[Barb_D]

Then say that.
"in the frames of" is meaningless to me. Unless it's a British English (or some other varient of English) expression that I've never seen.

 

[bhaisahab]

It's meaningless to me, too.

 

[Alvib]

It's meaningless to me, too.

Interestingly, I found the phrase "within the frames of" in COCA. And google found a plenty of pages with "in frames of"/"in the frames of", but these phrases are popular mostly among Russians, Armenians, etc. I could not even imagine that "in frames of" is a meaningless construction! We used it quite often when we were speaking about international organizations, conferences, treaties, projects, etc. Probably, because this is a phrase calque that translates Russian phrase "within a context/framework of"

 

[Raymott]

Interestingly, I found the phrase "within the frames of" in COCA. And google found a plenty of pages with "in frames of"/"in the frames of" [...]

Yes, there's certainly no problem with the phrase of "in frames of", and it's not meaningless in the right context.
"I have some Van Gogh prints in frames of gold"; "The skittles are set in frames of ten."
But it's not used (as far as I know) in English for your context.

 

[Alvib]

Yes, there's certainly no problem with the phrase of "in frames of", and it's not meaningless in the right context.
"I have some Van Gogh prints in frames of gold"; "The skittles are set in frames of ten."
But it's not used (as far as I know) in English for your context.

I see than it has only literal meaning (not figurative one).

 

[5jj]

Interestingly, I found the phrase "within the frames of" in COCA.

Hmmm. There are three citations: one for 'within the frames of reference, one for 'within the frames of meaning', and the third for within the frames of his photographs'. This is hardly convincing evidence of the acceptability or commonness of 'within the frames of'.'