"Like none other" or "Like no other" + noun

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What would be the correct option in a sentence like this: "...like none/no other man on Earth"? Thanks very much.
 

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Welcome to the forum, Jorma.

It's not a sentence, but the correct option is 'He writes poetry like no other man on Earth'.

You can use 'none other' to mean 'no one else'. 'He excites me like none other.'
 

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Since none is short for no one, the noun is already there.
 

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Hi.:-D

Do you mean that you Americans exclude other in He excites me like none other, or is it redundant, please?
Hello, OD.:-D
No, he doesn't mean that. What he means is that the noun 'man' is unnecessary.
 

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Hello, OD.:-D No, he doesn't mean that. What he means is that the noun 'man' is unnecessary.
So "He excites me like none other man" is not correct?
 

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It is not correct.
 
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"I have no brother, I am like no brother:
And this word—love, which greybeards call divine,
Be resident in men like one another,
And not in me; I am myself alone."


Richard of Gloucester

(The Third Part of King Henry the Sixth - Act 5, Scene 6)
William Shakespeare
 
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What is your point?

I don't see a connection between the thread and your quotation, which was written in 1591 (and Henry VI only has Part One and Part Two).
 
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Just an example to illustrate the grammar point discussed.

Something that I remembered. And what if the text is more than five centuries old. Perhaps "like no + noun" or "noun + like one another" are not correct English today.

And by the way: The Third part of King Henry the Sixth was the play.
 
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What is your point?

I don't see a connection between the thread and your quotation, which was written in 1591 (and Henry VI only has Part One and Part Two).


I can't see the connection either. There is no use of "no other" or "none other" in that quote. However, the OP is right about Henry VI Part 3. Henry IV only has Part One and Part Two.
 
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Yes, I agree with you that there is no use of "no other" or "none other". I was refering just to the construction without the adjective "other". I thought the question was more about the difference between "like no + noun" and "like none + noun".

And the quote is from The Third Part of King Henry the Sixth.
 
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Thank you very much for the replies. I have understood the usage of both expressions. And to reply to José Manuel Rosón Bravo, I have to say that the issue was about "like none + noun" and "Like no + noun". I wrote "other" because I read it in a text, but it is the same with this adjective or without it for me.
 

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I have enjoyed the Shakespeare quote very much. Thanks for it.
 

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Hi.:-D

Do you mean that you Americans exclude other in He excites me like none other, or is it redundant, please?

Not redundant, but not right, either!

None other
is an idiom that does not fit your sentence. Your sentence should say "like no other."
 
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