lung ailment/disease

[Rachel Adams]

Hello

Could you please check the rewiritten sentence B?

A.At the end of the XIX century Grand Duke George Alexandrovich of Russia relocated/moved/retired to Abastumani due to his poor health/ill-health (lung ailment)

B.At the end of the XIX century Grand Duke George Alexandrovich of Russia moved to Abastumani due to lung disease.

 

[Tarheel]

Perhaps:

...moved to Abastunami because of health reasons.

Why do you insist on using Roman numerals?

:?:

 

[GoesStation]

Why do you insist on using Roman numerals?

Rachel Adams, we don't write century numbers in Roman numerals in English. Write At the end of the 19th century, Grand Duke George Alexandrovich of Russia moved to Abastumani, hoping the climate would improve his lung disease.

 

[Tarheel]

Or you could say:

hoping the climate would improve his health.

Or:

hoping his health would improve.

 

[GoesStation]

We all revised "due to lung disease" because a disease alone doesn't cause someone to move. People do sometimes move to a climate or elevation which they hope will help them recover from an illness.

 

[Rachel Adams]

Rachel Adams, we don't write century numbers in Roman numerals in English. Write At the end of the 19th century, Grand Duke George Alexandrovich of Russia moved to Abastumani, hoping the climate would improve his lung disease.

Writing ''in the nineteenth century'' instead of ''in the 19th century'' isn't common either, is it?

 

[Rachel Adams]

We all revised "due to lung disease" because a disease alone doesn't cause someone to move. People do sometimes move to a climate or elevation which they hope will help them recover from an illness.

The original text says he moved there because of the lung disease he had. So yes the disease alone caused him to move.

 

[tedmc]

Writing ''in the nineteenth century'' instead of ''in the 19th century'' isn't common either, is it?

With a double digit number, I agree that using numbers is easier to read. But a check with Ngram Viewer reveals that the description in words is more common.

 

[Tarheel]

Writing ''in the nineteenth century'' instead of ''in the 19th century'' isn't common either, is it?

They're both used, but "19th" involves less typing.

 

[GoesStation]

People with tuberculosis used to move to dry regions to alleviate the effects.

Quite true, and I have a friend who moved from the mountains of southern New Mexico to escape the cold winters he could no longer endure because of a degenerative illness. In the OP, I was objecting to "retired to Abastumani due to his poor health" because only someone familiar with the health effects of the Grand Duke's original location and those of Abastumani would be able to make sense of the sentence.

 

[Rachel Adams]

Quite true, and I have a friend who moved from the mountains of southern New Mexico to escape the cold winters he could no longer endure because of a degenerative illness. In the OP, I was objecting to "retired to Abastumani due to his poor health" because only someone familiar with the health effects of the Grand Duke's original location and those of Abastumani would be able to make sense of the sentence.

Perhaps the author took that sentence from a diary or from someone who was indeed familiar with his health issues? The original sentence wasn't mine.

 

[Tdol]

What was the disease? When talking about historical figures, it seems more natural to me to talk about tuberculosis or whatever the actual illness was, if known.

 

[Rachel Adams]

I am sorry for the late reply. He had tuberculosis. That's why I was going to use ''due to his poor health'', ''due to lung ailment,'' or ''his ill-health''. Are my choices wrong?

 

[Rachel Adams]

It is from the book 100 Resorts of Georgia by Irma Liparteliani and Tamar Ninikashvili. ''В конце XIX века, для лечения тяжелого недуга легких, (serious lung disease ) в Абастумани поселился великий князь России Георгий Александрович Романов''.

 

[GoesStation]

Google Translate produces something that looks pretty reasonable:

At the end of the 19th century, the Grand Duke of Russia George Alexandrovich Romanov settled in Abastumani for the treatment of severe lung disease.

I'd revise that to "At the end of the 19th century, Russian Grand Duke George Alexandrovich Romanov settled in Abastumani to treat his serious lung disease." Note that Google has correctly converted the Roman numeral to an ordinal Arabic numeral.

 

[Yankee]

B. is fine as posted.

 

[GoesStation]

B. is fine as posted.

Not for me. It uses the nonstandard Roman numeral convention for the century, and it leaves the reader to infer that something about the climate in the new locale is believed to relieve lung disease.

 

[Yankee]

Not for me. It uses the nonstandard Roman numeral convention for the century, and it leaves the reader to infer that something about the climate in the new locale is believed to relieve lung disease.

My focus was on the grammar and my preferred term (relocated/moved/retired to).

 

[Rachel Adams]

Why is it better to use ''as a result of'' instead of ''Due to'' and 19th instead of XIX?

 

[Rachel Adams]

Thank you very much, Piscean. Expressing them in words, for example if I write ''in the nineteenth century'' instead of ''in the 19th century'' is less common, isn't it?