made inroads with some GOP-leaning groups

[GoodTaste]

I don't understand the use of "with" here. Does it mean "along with"? That is Biden won some areas (that previously belong to GOP) because of the help from some GOP-leaning groups?

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Joe Biden has a commanding, 14-point lead over President Trump in the 2020 race, a new New York Times/Siena College poll of registered voters shows. Biden has a big lead with women and nonwhite voters and has made inroads with some GOP-leaning groups.

 

[GoesStation]

No. The writer meant among.

 

[GoodTaste]

No. The writer meant among.

So "made inroads with some GOP-leaning groups" means "won over some GOP-leaning groups"?

 

[GoesStation]

So "made inroads with some GOP-leaning groups" means "won over some GOP-leaning groups"?

Yes. As it happens, I'm reading the story right now.

 

[GoesStation]

This excerpt expands on the quoted text: "But the former vice president has also drawn even with Mr. Trump among male voters, whites and people in middle age and older — groups that have typically been the backbones of Republican electoral success …." You may want to look up "draw even with" and "backbone".

 

[GoodTaste]

drawn even with Mr. Trump among male voters, whites and people in middle age and older...........

Easy. It produces no victor in the presidential race between Biden and Trump even among male voters, whites and people in middle age and older...........

Biden is most likely the next president of the United States if there is no miracle coming to save Trump.

 

[teechar]

The second "with" has the same meaning as the first "with" in that sentence.

 

[GoodTaste]

The second "with" has the same meaning as the first "with" in that sentence.

What is the definition with the "with"? "In regard to"?

 

[teechar]

What is the [STRIKE]definition with the[/STRIKE] meaning of "with"? Does it mean "in regard to"?

See post #3 above.

 

[GoesStation]

What is the definition with the "with"? "In regard to"?

That's not quite right. Among works, as I said earlier.

 

[emsr2d2]

Does anyone else think that "has made inroads into ..." works?

 

[GoesStation]

Does anyone else think that "has made inroads into ..." works?

It might in other contexts. I don't think it does in this one.

 

[GoodTaste]

It might in other contexts. I don't think it does in this one.

If "has made inroads among ..." worked, then "has made inroads into ..." likely works.

It's hard to explain why. That is why liguistics is a hard job.

 

[teechar]

It's less common, but not impossible.

https://books.google.com/ngrams/gra... inroads into;,c0;.t1;,made inroads among;,c0