[Grammar] Reported Speech with 3 clauses

[leorndn]

I've been trawling the web through different websites to attempt to find someone related to reported speech with 3 clauses, and all I could dig out has been the traditional 2 clause sentences that we're all so used to.

What I mean is sentences like the following - I don't want to speak you you anymore so put your sister on the line.
Ana told me to tell you that your mother doesn't look entirely great using that sweater but I didn't care for her opionion.

I know that the first sentence can be said in reported speech like this: He said he didn't want to speak to me anymore, adding a backshift to the verb and adding the said clause at the beginning. However, what happens with the second clause, do I do a backshift with it as well or does it remain the same?

In the second example we can change it to He said Ana had told her to tell him that his mother didn't look entirely great using that sweater. but again what happens to the following clause.

Thank you

 

[emsr2d2]

I've been trawling [STRIKE]the web[/STRIKE] through different websites to attempt to find [STRIKE]someone[/STRIKE] some information relating to reported speech with [STRIKE]3[/STRIKE] three clauses, [STRIKE]and[/STRIKE] but all I [STRIKE]could[/STRIKE] have been able to dig out has been the traditional [STRIKE]2[/STRIKE] two-clause sentences that we're all so used to.

What I mean is sentences like the following.

1. "I don't want to speak [STRIKE]you[/STRIKE] to you anymore so put your sister on the line."
2. "Ana told me to tell you that your mother doesn't look [STRIKE]entirely[/STRIKE] great [STRIKE]using[/STRIKE] in that sweater but I didn't care [STRIKE]for[/STRIKE] about her [STRIKE]opionion[/STRIKE] opinion."

I know that the first sentence can be said in reported speech like this:

1. "He said he didn't want to speak to me anymore, ..." (adding a backshift to the verb and adding the said clause at the beginning). However, what happens with the second clause? do I [STRIKE]do a[/STRIKE] backshift [STRIKE]with[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]it[/STRIKE] that as well or does it remain the same?

In the second example we can change it to:
2. "He said Ana had told [STRIKE]her[/STRIKE] me to tell him that his mother didn't look [STRIKE]entirely[/STRIKE] great [STRIKE]using[/STRIKE] in that sweater ...", but, again, what happens to the following clause?

[STRIKE]Thank you. [/STRIKE] Unnecessary. Thank us after we help you, by clicking on the "Thank" button.

Welcome to the forum. :hi:

Please note my corrections above.

Before we give you answers, why don't you try to write out the entire sentences as you think they should be in reported speech?

Please check your member profile. I'm pretty certain your native language isn't Latin!

 

[GoesStation]

I'm pretty certain your native language isn't Latin!

Well, leorndn is from Colombia. Isn't that in Latin America?

 

[leorndn]

Yes, that's latin america. I settled for Latin because spanish wasn't on there.

 

[leorndn]

Thanks for your micro corrections on my query and I'm sorry for the sloppy grammar and/or syntax on my first question. I'll try to be more grammatically accurate on my next inquiry.

Although "care for" was being used as -not enjoying her opinion that has an implicit connotation that didn't care about it, but thanks for the feedback regardless.

I'm digressing. Going back to your request: "Before we give you answers, why don't you try to write out the entire sentences as you think they should be in reported speech?"

1. "I don't want to speak to you anymore so put your sister on the line."I would assume it would go something like this: He said he didn't want to speak to me anymore so he ordered me to put my sister back on the line.
This one is fairly tricky since we have the last clause being introduced by a coordinating conjunction which obliges me to report the third clause as well.

2. "Ana told me to tell you that your mother doesn't look entirely great usingin that sweater but I didn't care forabout her opionionopinion."
To be fair, although I know I'm drifting away from the main topic again, the phrasal verb care for in this sentence- care for, was being used for disliking her opinion which one might argue has an implicit connotation that she's not interested in it, but I don't believe it to be wrong, is all.
My take on this second one would be something like this: He told me Ana had told him to tell me that my mother doesn;t look great in that sweater but I didn't care for her opinion.
This seems right to me, leaving the last clause in the same tense in which it was said. This is where my inexperience comes to shine since I'm troubled with either doing a backshift on the last clause or leaving it the way it is.

3. This last one is really hanging over my head: " I was going to go to the party until I changed my mind" - He told me he had been going to the party until he changed his mind" I can't quite wrap my head around how to back shift this last sentence.

I know you told me not to thank you guys ! But thank you for your time. I truly appreciate it.

 

[GoesStation]

Well, leorndn is from Colombia. Isn't that in Latin America?

Yes, that's Latin America. I settled for Latin because Spanish wasn't on there.

Please check again. I've just verified that Spanish is one of the language choices -- right now, anyway. I have a hunch some of the profile pick lists have occasionally been a little out of sorts lately.

 

[leorndn]

Can you guys help me with my question, please ?

 

[jutfrank]

To try to answer your question generally: It doesn't matter in principle how many clauses you want to report. Backshifting can apply to all of them. (That doesn't mean that you should backshift everything, however.)

For the final example, I might use any of the following ways:

He said he was going to the party until he changed his mind.
He said he was going to the party but that he'd changed his mind.
He said he'd been intending to go to the party but that he'd changed his mind.