Said to have been originally as a dialect word

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binge (n.)

1854, "drinking bout," also (v.) "drink heavily, soak up alcohol;" dialectal use of binge"soak" (a wooden vessel). Said to have been originally as a dialect word: Binge is noted in Evans' "Leicestershire Words, Phrases and Proverbs" (London, 1848) as a dialect verb for "To soak in water a wooden vessel, that would otherwise leak," to make the wood swell. He adds that it was extended locally to excessive drinking ("soaking"). Sense extended c. World War I to include eating as well as drinking. Binge-watching is from 1996. Related: Binged; bingeing.

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a. Said to have been originally as a dialect word.
b. Said to be originally as a dialect word. [my version]

I don't see much difference in meaning between them in this case, main because of "originally", which already indicates that that happened in the past. Do you agree?

(Edit: Fixed a typo.)
 
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The word "as" shouldn't be there.

Said to have been originally a dialect word

It's a truncated version of "It is said to have been ..."
I wouldn't use "be" there, even with "originally" because "originally" automatically puts the context in the past so a present tense verb wouldn't be appropriate. Using "be" would suggest that it's still a dialect word. It isn't. It's in common use in all variants of English.
 

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It's in common use in all variants of English.
Thank you. If you don't mind, here is a last question:

1. It's in common use in all variants of English.
2. It's a common use in all variants of English. [my version]

Does my version work here?
 

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No. The phrase is "in use".
Using "be" would suggest that it's still a dialect word. It isn't. It's in common use in all variants of English.
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Using "be" would suggest that it's still a dialect word. It isn't. It's a common use/a common word in all variants of English.

Though it has a subtle difference in meaning compared to yours, I think it would work in this context. What do you think? 🙏
 

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Using "be" would suggest that it's still a dialect word. It isn't. It's a common use/a common word in all variants of English.

Though it has a subtle difference in meaning compared to yours, I think it would work in this context. What do you think? 🙏
A common word would work. A common use wouldn't.
 

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