staff vs staffs

Status
Not open for further replies.

Polyester

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Chinese
Home Country
China
Current Location
China
Can I add "s" in the end of the word "staff"?
Three staffs are sitting next to the door.
A staff is waiting the school bus.

Please tell me ...:-|
 

Matthew Wai

VIP Member
Joined
Nov 29, 2013
Member Type
Native Language
Chinese
Home Country
China
Current Location
China
Three staff members.
A staff member.
 

GoesStation

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Joined
Dec 22, 2015
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Can I add "s" in the end of the word "staff"?
Three staffs are sitting next to the door.
A staff is waiting the school bus.

Please tell me ...:-|

No. When it means "employees", staff​ is non-countable.
 

Tarheel

VIP Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Can I add "s" AT the end of the word "staff"?
Three staffs are sitting next to the door.
A staff is waiting FOR the school bus.

Please tell me ...:-|

Please note the corrections.
 

Tarheel

VIP Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
If it's a school you are probably talking about teachers, so say:

Three teachers

OR

a teacher
 

Rover_KE

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jun 20, 2010
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
It's possible to say 'The staffs of three schools met for a joint discussion'.
 

GoesStation

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Joined
Dec 22, 2015
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
When it means "employees", staff​ is non-countable.

It's possible to say 'The staffs of three schools met for a joint discussion'.

This countable/non-countable stuff gets very complicated. Staff is non-countable when it refers to the employees of a single establishment. When discussing more than one establishment, staff is countable provided that each staff refers to one establishment's employees.

Confusing the issue further, the countable noun staff meaning "a line of music in Western notation" takes different plurals in British and American English: staves and staffs respectively.
 

jutfrank

VIP Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2014
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
I don't think you can say staff is non-countable.

It usually refers to a (singular and countable) group of workers, not the individuals. This school has a staff, that school has a staff... Rover_KE's is a clear example of a plural (and countable) use.

I also think it's important to remember that individual words are neither countable nor non-countable in themselves. It is the use of a noun in context that determines its grammar, i.e. its countability.
 

Tdol

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2002
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
Japan
I do see staffs used in the plural sometimes nowadays, which I didn't in the past. I think there may be a change brewing, but for the moment would recommend holding back and using staff, and members of staff for a plural, Rover's not so common case excepted.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top