Students who work

[Untaught88]

Hi,

Students, who work very hard, get good marks.

Is it necessary to put commas in the above sentence?

 

[GoesStation]

No. That sentence should not have any commas.

 

[Tdol]

And even without commas, isn't it possible to work hard and not achieve a good mark?

 

[teechar]

@Untaught88: I think Tdol is trying to teach you to qualify your statements.

 

[krisfromgermany]

On facebook and elsewhere I sometimes read sentences like
'Students that work very hard...' instead of 'Students who work very hard...'.
Are both correct?

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I'm a native German speaker, I'm here to improve my English in general and especially my American English. Whenever you find any faults of mine, please feel free to correct me. Also, please correct me if you catch me using expressions that sound British rather than American. Thank you.

 

[Roman55]

'Students that work very hard...' instead of 'Students who work very hard...'.
Are both correct?

Yes, they are.

 

[kilroy65]

On facebook and elsewhere I sometimes read sentences like
'Students that work very hard...' instead of 'Students who work very hard...'.
Are both correct?

"Who" and "which" can be replaced by "that" only in defining relative clauses:
1. He is the man who/ that stole her purse.
2. The early Marillion was the band which/ that shaped my taste in music.

This is not possible in non-defining relative clauses:
3. His brother, who is a brilliant surgeon, lives in Australia.
4. Jane's car, which she's had for 10 years, is up for sale.

 

[Tdol]

On facebook and elsewhere I sometimes read sentences like
'Students that work very hard...' instead of 'Students who work very hard...'.
Are both correct?

They are. But the meaning starts to change when you add a comma.

 

[Tarheel]

Hi,

Students, who work very hard, get good marks.

That sentence as it is says that students are people who work very hard and they all get good marks. Take out the commas and it means something different.

 

[Barb_D]

There are still some people who believe that you should use "who" for people rather than "that."
There are many more people who don't see a difference.

 

[emsr2d2]

I don't see or even notice the difference when other people use it. However, I naturally gravitate towards "who" with people. I would say I use it automatically 99.9% of the time.