until and present perf. and / cont.

[ridvann]

Hello,

-I have always studied English all my life until you say 'stop studying' to me.

-I have been always studiying English all my life until you say 'stop studying' to me.

I know the sentences may seem weird, but please tell me if they are grammatically correct or not. I mean must we use 'present tense' after 'until' when using 'present perf. and present perf. cont. tense?

Thanks.

 

[5jj]

When you use the present perfect, you are normally thinking of a time period that extends up to the present moment. You do not, therefore, associate it with 'until', which would relate to a time period extending up to another point in time.

 

[ridvann]

Does it contain for the second sentence also what have you explained? or we must we say like that?

-I have always studied English all my life until you have said 'stop studying' to me.

-I have been always studiying English all my life until you have been saying 'stop studying' to me.

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[White Hat]

OP: I have always studied English all my life until you say 'stop studying' to me.

Compare

I always do my English studies until you say "Stop" to me. (a fact of general character)

and

All my life I did my English studies until you said "Stop" to me.


Am I right?

 

[ridvann]

Yes... Is it weird?

All my life I have done my English studies until you have said 'Stop' to me.

 

[5jj]

All my life I have done my English studies until you have said 'Stop' to me.

This is not acceptable English. As I said, you do not associate the present perfect with 'until'. Both verbs in that sentence need to be in the past simple.