What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

[tufguy]

What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

For example "either to cancle a check or revoke it both is the same thing". Please check.

Is "Both" a proper noun?

 

[emsr2d2]

Re: What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

[STRIKE]What[/STRIKE] Do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

For example "either to cancel a check or revoke it both is the same thing". The whole sentence is a mess. Start again.

Please check.

Is "both" a proper noun? No, it's not. You really need to study the difference between common nouns and proper nouns.

emsr2d2

 

[probus]

Re: What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

Of course I am no grammarian but I don't think both is usually any kind of noun. To me it's an adjective, at least most of the time.

 

[tufguy]

Re: What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

To "revoke a check" or "cancel a check" both is the same thing. Is it okay now?

 

[probus]

Re: What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

To "revoke a check" or "cancel a check" both is the same thing. Is it okay now?

They are absolutely not the same thing.

It is certainly not okay now. It is bad English and also factually wrong. GoesStation and I have both explained what cancel means with respect to cheques. It is not inconceivable, I suppose, that revoke is used that way in Indian English, but it is not to my knowledge, and it is definitely not so used in America.

 

[Tdol]

Re: What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

I use both are not both is.

 

[emsr2d2]

Re: What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

I use both are not both is.

Yes, but in the sentence you wrote, tufguy, the words needed to be the other way round. See below.

To "revoke a check" or "cancel a check" are both [strike]is[/strike] the same. [STRIKE]thing.[/STRIKE] Is it okay now?

Also note that you don't need "both" in that sentence at all, and "mean" would be better than are. To clarify, your sentence should read:

"Revoke a check" and "cancel a check" mean the same.

 

[GoesStation]

Re: What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

Also note that you don't need "both" in that sentence at all, and "mean" would be better than are. To clarify, your sentence should read:

"Revoke a check" and "cancel a check" mean the same.

Just to be clear, though: "cancel a check" is a common phrase. It's what your bank does when you deposit it. "Revoke a check" is not a common phrase. It wouldn't mean anything without context explaining it.

 

[Tdol]

Re: What do we say "Both are the same thing" or "Both is the same thing"?

I haven't heard revoke used in BrE. I did a Google search and most of the first page results were for Indian banks.