[Grammar] Will you reply if I will ask you to do so?

[Hucky]

Hi,

Herewith, I`d like to pick up an issue formerly touched on in passing. Since it had but a marginal existence there, I deem it recommendable to establish it as a thread of its own. Let me come down to brass tacks.
The other day a colleague of mine spoke of an American student of his who always uses a future tense in a temporal clause justifying himself by asserting that this is the common way to do it in the US now.

E.g.: As soon as / when I will arrive, I´ll call you up.

What do the American members make of this assertion?

Hucky

 

[susiedqq]

An American would say:

As soon as I arrive, I'll call you.

I'll = I will

 

[Hucky]

Dear susiedgg,

To start with, thank you so much!

Properly, I had expected a reply like yours, or rather hoped for it.

What, then, would an American speaker make of someone who uses the will-future in a temporal or conditional clause? Would for instance an English teacher or any other teacher at an American High School tolerate such a construction instead of correcting him?

Hucky

 

[Vidor]

not a teacher

Or "When I arrive" or "After I arrive". Still no call for "will" in the first part of that sentence. "Will" in the second, main part of the sentence is enough.

 

[probus]

No English teacher in America would tolerate "when I will arrive, I´ll call you up."

Not only is it grammatically incorrect, it is never heard. It's not slang, it's not some cult argot, it is just plain wrong. I am as certain of this as I am of anything.

 

[SirGod]

*Not a teacher.

You can't use future tenses in temporal clauses. Period.

 

[Hucky]

Thanks so much to all of you! But my special thanks go to probus. Your statements have been very illuminating, exactly what I was after.

Cheerio!

Hucky