when should I do "ain't"

Fine, my friend. Continue to use "ain't" any old way you wish.

Perhaps a bit more focus on the "not standard" and less on the various permutations would serve you better.

I promise not to try to correct any future use you try to make of ain't.

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Originally Posted by e2e4

I will have not listened to you by the year 2012.

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Is this sentence possible even in this form?

/A learner/

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Originally Posted by Barb_D

Fine, my friend. Continue to use "ain't" any old way you wish.

Perhaps a bit more focus on the "not standard" and less on the various permutations would serve you better.

I promise not to try to correct any future use you try to make of ain't.

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Dear Barb_D, I don't know what to think now.

One more dictionary

Definition and pronunciation of ain't | Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary

ain't

short form
http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdic...es/pron-uk.gifeɪnt http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdic...es/pron-us.gifeɪnt
(non-standard or humorous)


1 am not/is not/are not
Things ain't what they used to be.
2 has not/have not
I ain't got no money.You ain't seen nothing yet.

Idioms
if it ain't broke, don't fix it

(informal) used to say that if something works well enough, it should not be changed

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Originally Posted by Barb_D

Fine, my friend. Continue to use "ain't" any old way you wish.

Perhaps a bit more focus on the "not standard" and less on the various permutations would serve you better.

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Ecuador Zero, Barb_D gave, in post #4, a reasoned response to your question. A similar response might well have been given by any person who understands how English is normally spoken/written by reasonably educated native speakers. If you think you know better, why do you bother to ask the opinion of members of this this forum?.

I am with Barb_D: I promise not to try to correct any future use you try to make of ain't.

I will just leave you to use unacceptable English.

/A learner/

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Originally Posted by birdeen's call

Is this sentence possible even in this form?

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Not without 'by" for sure.

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Originally Posted by birdeen's call

I will have not listened to you by the year 2012.
Is this sentence possible even in this form?

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In theory one could concoct a highly unlikely situation in which this utterance might be possible.

In reality, the short answer to your question is, of course, no.

I acknowledge that it can be for "has/have not," as it is in "You ain't seen nothing yet."

That doesn't mean it can be dropped into place anywhere that "have not" would be used.

I will have not seen him for six months by the time his ship returns.
I will ain't seen him -- NO!

This really is the last thing I'll say in this thread, so feel free to continue without me.

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Originally Posted by e2e4

Barb, this time, I am afraid I ain't proven your any point actually.:oops:

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e2e4, when your command of English is such that you do not produce utterances such as the one above, then I may read with interest your comments on Barb_D's posts.

Until that time, why not try sitting back and reading what people with some knowledge have to say before posting your guesses and opinions?

Ain't | Define Ain't at Dictionary.com
Dictionary: Online definitions and pronunciations - Yahoo! Education
Ain't - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Collins: The Dictionary Meaning of ain't

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e2e4, what these entries say is all right. But they do not contradict anything the teachers told you here. Barb_D has acknowledged that "ain't" can be used to mean haven't, hasn't sometimes. What is that still confuses you?

I suggest that you read carefully what has been said on this thread. It's all sound advice.