claim was validated

hhtt21 · Mar 8, 2017

I would like to ask what we can use instead of the phrase "claim was validated" in this sentence, retaining both phrase's and sentence's meanings :1. "John's claim was validated by the Police"?

My try as 2: "John's claim was verified by the police."

Thank you.

Charlie Bernstein · Mar 8, 2017

Verified is good. I also like confirmed.

Don't capitalize police.

hhtt21 · Mar 8, 2017

Charlie Bernstein said:
Verified is good. I also like confirmed.

Don't capitalize police.

But are meanings exactly and exactly identical in these three case?

Thank you.

emsr2d2 · Mar 8, 2017

What do you mean by "exactly and exactly identical"? You should have used "three cases".

hhtt21 · Mar 8, 2017

emsr2d2 said:
What do you mean by "exactly and exactly identical"? You should have used "three cases".

I meant to say just as the same by "exactly and exactly identical". So is it wrong?

Thank you.

emsr2d2 · Mar 8, 2017

Didn't we establish in another thread that "just as the same" is not correct? In this thread, you're now going to learn that "exactly and exactly identical" is wrong.

Tdol · Mar 9, 2017

Try exactly the same.

hhtt21 · Mar 9, 2017

Tdol said:
Try exactly the same.

Are these three sentences exactly the same in meaning: 1."John's claim was validated by the police" 2. "John's claim was verified by the police." 3. "John's claim was confirmed by the police."?

Thank you.

Rover_KE · Mar 9, 2017

We are always reluctant to say that three sentences are exactly the same in meaning. Whenever we do, somebody comes along with a context in which one is better than the others.

You'll have to be satisfied that in most cases it's a matter of personal preference and that they're more or less the same in meaning.

hhtt21 · Mar 9, 2017

Rover_KE said:
We are always reluctant to say that three sentences are exactly the same in meaning. Whenever we do, somebody comes along with a context in which one is better than the others.

You'll have to be satisfied that in most cases it's a matter of personal preference and that they're more or less the same in meaning.

But aren't these sentences context itself? Heart of the sentence "to validate a claim" and "the police" implies that this is a criminal situation. I ignore other situation. Please just think this situation.

Thank you.

GoesStation · Mar 9, 2017

hhtt21 said:
Are these three sentences exactly the same in meaning: 1."John's claim was validated by the police" 2. "John's claim was verified by the police." 3. "John's claim was confirmed by the police."

hhtt21 said:
But aren't these sentences context itself? Heart of the sentence "to validate a claim" and "the police" implies that this is a criminal situation. I ignore other situation. Please just think this situation.

Suppose the police department in question has three procedures: claim validation, claim verification, and claim confirmation. In that situation the three words would mean distinctly different things.

Without more context it's impossible to say whether the terms are interchangeable.

hhtt21 · Mar 9, 2017

Then let me derive a scenario. Let's think that there is a murder. The police think that John's is the strongest suspect so the police have arrested him and is interrrogating him to speak in the police station. John told the police that he was in a different distinct of the city when the murder happened. Police went there and checked the street cameras and sees that John is saying the truth. Which of the following sentences would be the same for this situation?

1. john's claim was validated by the police.
2. John's claim was verified by the police.
3. John's claim was confirmed by the police.

Thank you.

emsr2d2 · Mar 9, 2017

hhtt21 said:
Then let me [STRIKE]derive[/STRIKE] give you a scenario. Let's [STRIKE]think[/STRIKE] imagine that there [STRIKE]is[/STRIKE] has been a murder. The police think that [STRIKE]John's[/STRIKE] John is the strongest suspect so they [STRIKE]police[/STRIKE] have arrested him and [STRIKE]is[/STRIKE] are interrogating him [STRIKE]to speak[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]in[/STRIKE] at the police station. John told the police that he was in a different distinct of the city when the murder happened. The police went there and checked the street cameras and [STRIKE]sees[/STRIKE] saw that John [STRIKE]is saying[/STRIKE] was telling the truth. Which of the following sentences would be the same for this situation?

1. John's claim was validated by the police.
2. John's claim was verified by the police.
3. John's claim was confirmed by the police.

Thank you.

Note my corrections above. Of your three verbs, I would use "confirmed" but I would start with "John's alibi ...".

GoesStation · Mar 10, 2017

Confirmed or verified work for me. "Validated" doesn't.

tedmc · Mar 10, 2017

To verify something is to confirm that something is true. For the purpose of the police, I think "verify" is a better word to use.
To validate something is more than to verify it. A valid claim is one which has the ground(s) and the authority to make the claim.

emsr2d2 · Mar 10, 2017

In police dramas, when someone comes up with an alibi such as "I was with my girlfriend", the police say "And she'll confirm that, will she?" Once they've checked with her, they usually say "We've confirmed his alibi. He was with his girlfriend". That's why I chose "confirmed". Whether that's what real cops say, I've no idea.

Tdol · Mar 10, 2017

hhtt21 said:
1. John's claim was validated by the police.

This sounds odd to me. You can validate a document, etc, but I would n't use it in this context.

hhtt21 · Mar 21, 2017

As very closely related to the question, can we use validate or verify instead of confirm for the case in the pic?

Thank you.

GoesStation · Mar 21, 2017

What happens when you click the button? My guess is that the user is confirming that they've entered what they intended. "Validate" or "verify" would suggest that the site was going to do something with the information.

Buttons should be labeled with a verb that tells the user what will happen when they click them. This is one place where the HTML default Submit might be the best choice.

hhtt21 · Mar 21, 2017

GoesStation said:
What happens when you click the button? My guess is that the user is confirming that they've entered what they intended. "Validate" or "verify" would suggest that the site was going to do something with the information.

Buttons should be labeled with a verb that tells the user what will happen when they click them. This is one place where the HTML default Submit might be the best choice.

Yes, the user is confirming the password change. So you also think that validate and verify is wrong? As a non-native person, I think verify would be also just as good.

Thank you

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