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First of all, I know that I wrote 15 sentences which are huge in one thread, so don’t be angry about it and take your time to solve it. :shock:
Secondly, I don’t know what the third types of these sentences are called, so what is called?

Simple Present Tense
When Peter tries to catch his cat it hides itself under a chair.
Passive Voice (Simple Present Tense)
When catches are tried by Peter to his cat it hides itself under a chair.
Abstract noun phrase
When Peter’s catching of his cat happens it hides itself under a chair.

Future Tense
Willy will furnish his bed after he wakes up while his mother will be fixing breakfast to him.
Passive Voice (Future Tense)
Willy’s bed will be furnished by him after he wakes up while his mother will be fixing breakfast to him.
Abstract noun phrase
Willy’s furnishing of his bed will be after he wakes up while his mother will be fixing breakfast to him.

Simple Tense
Tom played with his friends a brilliant game so during the game he hit the ball with the baseball bat several times.
Passive Voice (Simple Tense)
A brilliant game was being played by Tom with his friends so during the game he hit the ball with the baseball bat several times.
Abstract noun phrase
Tom’s playing of a brilliant game with his friends made him happy all the day.

Present Continuous Tense
Kathy is helping her mother to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point.
Passive Voice (Present Continuous Tense)
Kathy’s mother is being helped by Kathy to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point.
Abstract noun phrase
Kathy’s helping of her mother to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point was an excellent work or thing.

Past Continuous Tense
During programing, Andy was trying to discover what was lacking his computer.
Passive Voice (Past Continuous Tense)
During programing, discovering was being trying by Andy about what was lacking his computer.
Abstract noun phrase
During programing, Andy’s trying to discover what was lacking his computer took half hour.
 
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I've explained it in the last post of the following thread; take a look at it. See if it's the explanation that you want! I have just something to add here:

-Possessive pronoun + abstract noun + preposition + verb + ...
-Your + rejection + of + the offer + was + ...

https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/124191-a-2.html
 

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I've explained it in the last post of the following thread; take a look at it. See if it's the explanation that you want! I have just something to add here:

-Possessive pronoun + abstract noun + preposition + verb + ...
-Your + rejection + of + the offer + was + ...

https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/124191-a-2.html
This process is referred to as an abstract noun phrase as you said in a previous thread.
What about fixing the sentences?

Thank you so much.
 

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First of all, I know that I wrote 15 sentences which are huge in one thread, so don’t be angry about it and take your time to solve it. :shock:
Secondly, I don’t know what the third types of these sentences are called, so what is called?

Simple Voice
When Peter tries to catch his cat it hides (itself) under a chair.
Passive Voice (Simple Voice)
When Peter's cat is tried to be caught by Peter, it hides under a chair.
(When Peter's cat is tried to catch by Peter, it hides under a chair.)
But I think version 1 is better/correct.
???
When Peter’s catching [STRIKE]of[/STRIKE] his cat [STRIKE]happens[/STRIKE] it hides (itself) under a chair.

Future Voice
Willy will furnish his bed after he wakes up while his mother will be [STRIKE]fixing[/STRIKE] making/cooking breakfast [STRIKE]to[/STRIKE] for him.
Passive Voice (Future Voice)
Willy’s bed will be furnished by him after he wakes up while his mother will be [STRIKE]fixing[/STRIKE] making/cooking breakfast [STRIKE]to[/STRIKE] for him.
??? :?:
After Willy wakes up he's furnishing [STRIKE]of[/STRIKE] his bed while his mother will be [STRIKE]fixing[/STRIKE] making/cooking breakfast [STRIKE]to[/STRIKE] for him.

Simple Voice
Tom played with his friends a brilliant game so during the game he hit the ball with the baseball bat several times.
Passive Voice (Simple Voice)
A brilliant game was being played by Tom with his friends so during the game he hit the ball with the baseball bat several times.
???
Tom’s playing (of:?:) a brilliant game with his friends made him happy all the day. :?:

Present Continuous Voice
Kathy is helping her mother to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point.
Passive Voice (Present Continuous Voice)
Kathy’s mother is being helped by Kathy to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point.
???
Kathy’s helping of her mother to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point was an excellent work or thing.

Past Continuous Voice
During programing, Andy was trying to discover what was lacking his computer.
Passive Voice (Past Continuous Voice)
During programing, the lacking about his computer was tried to be discovered.
???
During programing, Andy’s trying to discover what was lacking his computer took half hour.

Okay, first off.
I have absolutely no idea if my "corrections" are okay at all.
Some sentences don't make any sense to me:
And why did you use the word "of" so many times in some sentences?

I have the feeling that your 's = was:
During programing, Andy was trying to discover what was lacking his computer took half hour.

My suggestion (in case I'm right):
Don't write "Andy's" if you mean "Andy was".
It can confuse members.
Are all the first three sentences past?

Well, I hope some teachers will say something here.

P.S. Did you write all these sentences by yourself?

Cheers!
 

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Okay, first off.
I have absolutely no idea if my "corrections" are okay at all.
Some sentences don't make any sense to me:
And why did you use the word "of" so many times in some sentences? It’s a rule for abstract noun phrase
The + application + of + something + to + something


I have the feeling that your 's = was:
During programing, Andy was trying to discover what was lacking his computer took half hour.
My sentence seems Ok but yours is strange to me

My suggestion (in case I'm right):
Don't write "Andy's" if you mean "Andy was".
It can confuse members.
I didn’t mean as you understood. It’s a possessive noun which is used with nouns to show possession.
Are all the first three sentences past? No, they're simple present tense.

Well, I hope some teachers will say something here.

P.S. Did you write all these sentences by yourself? Yes, but it takes time when I write it. Usually, when I write sentences there are mistakes in it, so I try to practice more to improve my English and get help from the teachers here in this brilliant forum.

Cheers!

I answered your questions above. Thank you.
 
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I have a headache from reading this thread. :shock:

Could you please clarify if you want to know about 1) passive/active voices or 2) past, present, and future tenses?
 

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Some sentences should never be attempted in the passive.

I STRONGLY suggest you find some simpler sentences to practice this on.

Mary throws the ball to Peter.
Try to transform that to the passive.

If you really think that's too easy, then try this:
When Mary throws the ball to Peter, he always drops it.
 

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I have a headache from reading this thread. :shock:

Could you please clarify if you want to know about 1) passive/active voices or 2) past, present, and future tenses?
haha :-D, what I want from the teachers is to check my sentences whether there are mistakes or not. Some members in this forum know what I mean and this is not my first thread of this kind. So I can say you nice to meet you.....
 

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atchan,
Please do not be offended by this, but your sentences are so full of errors and misuses of English that it's almost impossible to correct them.

PLEASE write simpler sentences. Test your knowledge on simple sentences. Work with simple sentences.

You are not ready for the complex sentences you are attempting.
 

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Some sentences should never be attempted in the passive.

I STRONGLY suggest you find some simpler sentences to practice this on.

Mary throws the ball to Peter.
Try to transform that to the passive.

If you really think that's too easy, then try this:
When Mary throws the ball to Peter, he always drops it.
Mary throws the ball to Peter.
The ball is thrown by Mary to Peter.

When Mary throws the ball to Peter
When the ball is thrown by Mary to Peter he catch it.
 

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atchan,
Please do not be offended by this, but your sentences are so full of errors and misuses of English that it's almost impossible to correct them.

PLEASE write simpler sentences. Test your knowledge on simple sentences. Work with simple sentences.

You are not ready for the complex sentences you are attempting.
I'm not offended by you. I know that you are giving me advises and I also know that most of my active voices don't have object which is important when trying to change to passive voice. In the next days I will try to write simple sentences and you will see that I'm a smart. When I become a professional member I will ask you a permission whether I can write complex sentences.
 
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I know you will learn it so well that these will seem easy soon!

One of the keys to the passive voice is that you do not need to say who does the action.

When the ball is thrown to Peter, he catches it. (I notice you said he catches it instead of drops it.) You don't need to say "by Mary."

Do you want to put them in the future now?
 

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I know you will learn it so well that these will seem easy soon!

One of the keys to the passive voice is that you do not need to say who does the action.

When the ball is thrown to Peter, he catches it. (I notice you said he catches it instead of drops it). You don't need to say "by Mary."

Do you want to put them in the future now?
Yes, I do. Mary will throw the ball to Peter.
 

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Great. And for the future with passive?
The ball will...
 

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Great. And for the future with passive?
The ball will...
The ball will be thrown to Mary. You said that "by Tom" isn't necessary.
 

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Before we close or leave this thread can any teacher check the errors or mistakes for my sentences which are on the top of this thread.
Thank you in advance.....
 

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Nice to meet you, too! :lol: It's always a pleasure to make new friends.

Let me tackle your list of sentences by conjugating them properly.

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Simple Present Active Voice

When Peter tries to catch his cat it hides itself under a chair.

Active voice: When Peter tries to catch his cat, it hides under a chair.

Passive voice: The cat is hidden under a chair when it is being caught by Peter.


Abstract noun phrase
When Peter’s catching of his cat happens it hides itself under a chair.

Hmm, trying to turn catching into an abstract noun phrase? I believe all you've done here is make the verb gerund instead of abstract.

Example of an abstract noun phrase:
Peter's happiness fills the room when his cat hides under a chair. Happiness is metaphysical, meaning it does not have a physical form (concept or idea). How about this: "Peter derives his happiness from chasing the cat."

Future Progressive Active Tense

Willy will be furnishing his bed after he wakes up. His mother will be fixing him breakfast while he does that.

Future Perfect Passive Tense

Willy’s bed will have been furnishing by him after waking up. Breakfast will have been fixing by his mother.

Abstract noun phrase
Willy’s furnishing of his bed will be after he wakes up while his mother will be fixing breakfast to him.

By fixing his bed, Peter demonstrates his maturity.

Simple Present Active Voice

Tom played a brilliant game with his friends. During the game, he hit the ball several times.

Simple Present Passive Tense

A brilliant game was played by Tom and his friends. The ball was hit several times by Tom's bat.

Abstract noun phrase

The success of their game made Tom and his friends very happy.

Simple Present Tense Active Voice

Kathy is helping her mother boil the tea.

Present Perfect Tense Passive Voice

The tea has boiled by Kathy and her mother.


Abstract noun phrase
Kathy’s helping of her mother to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point was an excellent work or thing.

Kathy's love for her mother compelled her to help boil the tea.


Past Progressive Tense Active Voice

Andy was trying to figure out the cause of his computer's lagging.

Past Progressive Tense Passive Voice

During programing, discovering was being trying by Andy about what was lacking his computer.

The computer's lagging was trying to be figured out by Andy.



Abstract noun phrase
During programing, Andy’s trying to discover what was lacking his computer took half hour.[/QUOTE]

Andy's achievement in figuring out a solution made him happy.
 
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