[Vocabulary] Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

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Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

Does the phrase "put into effect" in the original sentence mean " in practice" or "practically"?
Gas percentage is likely to rise in coming years if carbon prices are put into effect.(Original sentence)
Gas percentage is likely to rise in coming years if carbon prices are inexpensive in practice.(right?)
Gas percentage is likely to rise in coming years if carbon prices are inexpensive practically.(right?)

In addition to this question, can I use "are gone into effect" or "are come into effect" instead of "are put into effect"?

 

[bhaisahab]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

Does the phrase "put into effect" in the original sentence mean " in practice" or "practically"?
Gas percentage is likely to rise in coming years if carbon prices are put into effect.(Original sentence)
Gas percentage is likely to rise in coming years if carbon prices are inexpensive in practice.(right?)
Gas percentage is likely to rise in coming years if carbon prices are inexpensive practically.(right?)

They are all meaningless to me I'm afraid.

 

[eggcracker]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

They are all meaningless to me I'm afraid.

Perhaps there must be error in my book....
Doesn't the phrase "put into effect" mean "in practice" or "practically" except for the sentences I mentioned?

 

[SoothingDave]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

"Put into effect" does not mean "practically" or "in practice." It means something has become active. Like "The smokers enjoyed their last indoor cigarette right before midnight, when the city's new smoking ban went into effect."

 

[eggcracker]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

"Put into effect" does not mean "practically" or "in practice." It means something has become active. Like "The smokers enjoyed their last indoor cigarette right before midnight, when the city's new smoking ban went into effect."

Thank you now I can understand the phrases.
Is it right to understand your sentence as below?

"The smokers enjoyed their last indoor cigarette right before midnight, and after the day the city's new smoking ban went into effect."​

Oh, I have more question about this.
If I say the sentence

"The smokers enjoyed their last indoor cigarette right before midnight, when the city's new smoking ban went into effect.".
I maybe pause at the comma. But can I use the expression right above when I make a conversation with other people?
Or can this kind of sentence be used in the News on air?

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[SoothingDave]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

At midnight the new law went into effect. At 11:59 PM it was legal to smoke inside. At 12 midnight, it was not. The law went into effect at midnight.

 

[eggcracker]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

At midnight the new law went into effect. At 11:59 PM it was legal to smoke inside. At 12 midnight, it was not. The law went into effect at midnight.

So, do the sentences I transformed mean the same as original?

 

[SoothingDave]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

Is it right to understand your sentence as below?
"The smokers enjoyed their last indoor cigarette right before midnight, and after the day the city's new smoking ban went into effect."
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No. "When" does not translate to "and after the day."

 

[eggcracker]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

No. "When" does not translate to "and after the day."

Thank you. Now I get at least how to understand the original sentence.
Incidentally, I've been schooled that I should translate the structure such as "~, when" , "~, who"
into the expressions like "~, and after that time", "~, and someone do something/~, and someone is something"
It's quite confusing. Would you give me some grammar rule if possible?

 

[SoothingDave]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

"The smokers enjoyed their last indoor cigarette right before midnight, when the city's new smoking ban went into effect."​

In this case the "when" is to be understood like "...midnight, which was the time when the city's..."

 

[eggcracker]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

Hello. I saw another sentence includes " be put into effect".
Please let me know some more about the usage of this. Is it okay to understand original sentence as sentence2?

Original sentence:Those and other such measures ought to have been put into effect in 1985
Sentence 2:Those and other such measures ought to have been gone into effect in 1985

 

[bhaisahab]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

Hello. I saw another sentence includes " be put into effect".
Please let me know some more about the usage of this. Is it okay to understand original sentence as sentence2?

Original sentence:Those and other such measures ought to have been put into effect in 1985
Sentence 2:Those and other such measures ought to have been gone into effect in 1985

Sentence 2 is incorrect. Can you see why?

 

[eggcracker]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

Sentence 2 is incorrect. Can you see why?

I can't.
Isn't it correct to think the phrase "put into effect" to "go into effect"?

 

[bhaisahab]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

I can't.
Isn't it correct to think the phrase "put into effect" to "go into effect"?

"Those and other such measures ought to have (been) gone into effect in 1985."
Delete "been" and it's OK.

 

[eggcracker]

Re: Does the phrase "put into effect" mean " in practice" or "practically"?

I deduce maybe those expressions can't be used as passive. Thank you.