Help with phonetics

[pizza]

I am not a linguist but I do enjoy reading about linguistics. I am not an expert in IPA but I have studied it somewhat. I have read the articles in Wikipedia on how to do the sounds below but I still can't produce them. I hope someone can provide some help.


1. Retroflex sounds ◌̢ (e.g., ʂ)
2. Palatalized sounds ◌ ʲ (e.g., ʃ ʲ = ɕ)

 

[Tdol]

Could you upload or link to files with you saying these sounds- it might help people see what's going on.

 

[raindoctor]

Do some tongue exercises, as described on voiceguy.ca site. It can help you develop kinesthesia. There are two kinds of retroflex consonants: sub-apicals (seen in south indian languages); apico-postalveolars (seen in north Indian ones). Same with palatals: palato-alveolars and alveo palatals.

Esp with sibilants, try to see the sublingual cavity.

Here are some diagrams that may be helpful:

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[5jj]

Here are some diagrams that may be helpful:

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That link sent me to an ad for google drive. Could you try again, please.

 

[Tdol]

I got the diagrams here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwte3_9g4U6oMzROWHd2WE1lXzA/edit?pli=1#

 

[5jj]

I got the diagrams here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwte3_9g4U6oMzROWHd2WE1lXzA/edit?pli=1#

Are there any labels for the diagrams anywhere?