[Grammar] Are "The bourgeois" and "bourgeoisie" same?

[eggcracker]

The+Adjective=Noun
bourgeois(adj) bourgeoisie(noun)
So I want to make sure it's correct.
Are "The bourgeois" and "bourgeoisie" same?

 

[SoothingDave]

Yes. Nobody uses these words unless they are studying communism.

 

[5jj]

Yes. Nobody uses these words unless they are studying communism.

...or the bourgeoisie.;-)

Actually, I don't agree. Bourgeois (adj) is not uncommonly used by those who disapprove of what they consider to be the small-minded, acquisitive, conservative attitudes of people of the middle classes.

Bourgeoisie (noun), used for the whole class, is a word often used by historians.

 

[eggcracker]

Yes. Nobody uses these words unless they are studying communism.

No. I learned those words in the European history class.

 

[BobK]

In French bourgeois is an adjective, and can therefore function as a noun (meaning 'a member of the bourgeoisie'). In English 'bourgeois' can be used of a practice or attitude - 'Oh that's so bourgeois'. (I'm not sure if this can be done in French - where originally 'bourgeois' just meant 'pertaining to a 'bourg'').

In a European history class, it's probably safe to assume the distinction adj versus noun - given above by 5jj.

 

[5jj]

In French bourgeois is an adjective, and can therefore function as a noun (meaning 'a member of the bourgeoisie'). In English 'bourgeois' can be used of a practice or attitude - 'Oh that's so bourgeois'. (I'm not sure if this can be done in French - where originally 'bourgeois' just meant 'pertaining to a 'bourg'').

In a European history class, it's probably safe to assume the distinction adj versus noun - given above by 5jj.

I think that it's possible in English to borrow the (possibly non-existent) French term 'petit bourgeois' as a noun for the lower end of the spectrum, but only in the plural: " The petit bourgeois aped the aristocrats more than those just a step or a sou above them". 'Petit' should, by French rules , have an -s ending, but I suspect that we don't always add it.

Warning: I am not a great reader of historical and/or sociologcal works, so I may be talking rubbish.

 

[BobK]

My French is long past its sell-by date, but I think when I was studying Madame Bovary 40-odd years ago I read a French critic who used the term 'petit bourgeois' (not of Emma, but of one of the other characters).

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