before certain people would help me

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a. I had to beg before some people would help me.
b. I had to beg before certain people would help me.

Do these imply that nobody helped me before I begged?

In (b) I have a specific set of people in mind. Can I use (a) instead of (b)?

What else could (a) mean?
 
No. It's possible that other people helped you without your having to beg. We only know that you had to beg some/certain people for help. If you received no help at all before begging, you would have to say "I had to beg before anyone would help me".
 
Thank you so much,

Can I use (a) instead of (b)? In other words, can I use (a) if I have a specific set of people in mind?
 
I wouldn't.
 
If you put particular stress on "some", I would say that you can.
 
OK, but not a way that would work in written text unless you wrote about SOME people.
 
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