both vs neither implying a negative response

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Hi

I've tried to write the conversation below but I cannot be sure what I should say at the end.

The man: You have not been in town in five minutes and you have managed to attact gentlemen admirers.
The girl: They are not.
The man: Not gentlemen or not admirers?
The girl: Both. / Neither. (The girl wants to say that they are neither gentlemen nor admirers)

Should the girl say 'both' or 'neither' as a short answer at the end? I think 'neither' works but I am not sure.
 

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"Neither" is the best answer, but "both" is understandable.
 

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Hi,

I've tried to write the conversation below, but I cannot be sure what I should say at the end.

The man: You have not been in town [STRIKE]in[/STRIKE] five minutes and you have managed to attract gentlemen admirers.
The girl: They are not.
The man: Not gentlemen or not admirers?
The girl: Both. / Neither. (The girl wants to say that they are neither gentlemen nor admirers)

Should the girl say 'both' or 'neither' as a short answer at the end? I think 'neither' works, but I am not sure.
You've answered your own question; "neither" is the correct answer.

Note also that in an ordinary conversation, contractions are more likely than full forms. Hence, it's more likely to be "you've" instead of "you have".
 

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You have not been in town in five minutes ... :cross:
You have not been in town for five minutes ... :tick: (as Piscean said)
You haven't been in town five minutes ... :tick: (Heard in BrE)
 

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You haven't been is much more common in American English than you've not been.
 

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Not even in British films (movies) or TV shows, Charlie?
 
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Ademoglu, I have a suggestion for you. In future, if you create a dialogue, please give the characters names! It's very odd for us to keep reading "The man" and "The woman". Just pick generic names for the participants.
 
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