but anyway vs but...anyway

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In Collins Advanced Learner’s English Dictionary, I read this.

You use anyway or anyhow to suggest that a statement is true or relevant in spite of other things that have been said.

I don't know why I settled on Aberdeen, but anyway I did.

I wasn't qualified to apply for the job really but I got it anyhow.


I wonder if the dictionary indicates that the two forms: clause + but anyway+ clause and clause + but + clause + anyway has the same meaning. That is to say, they are interchangeable.
 

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It's rare that I give much thought to using a word like anyway. It just pops into my head. Anyway, I have to go now.
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Thanks for your reply. But I don’t think my question has been answered. Would you please take a little time to answer it?
 

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wonder if the dictionary indicates that the two forms: clause + but anyway+ clause and clause + but + clause + anyway has the same meaning. That is to say, they are interchangeable.

No, absolutely not. Dictionary writers do not think like that. Please listen to what I said in the previous post.

The first pattern in your post (which I've coloured blue) is not a pattern. It's the other one (the red one) that you need to focus on and learn.

Please just forget about the Aberdeen sentence. It's not a good sentence, and it's not helping you. The second sentence is good.
 

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I don't know why I settled on Aberdeen, but anyway I did.

I wasn't qualified to apply for the job really but I got it anyhow.

Neither is a good sentence. Do you know why?
 

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Neither is a good sentence. Do you know why?

What about changing the second sentence like this?

I wasn't qualified for the job really but I got it anyhow.
 

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I'd move "really". Can you work out where else it could go?
 

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I'd move "really". Can you work out where else it could go?
What about this?

I wasn't
really qualified to apply for the job really but I got it anyhow.

But I don't know how to improve the other sentence--
I don't know why I settled on Aberdeen, but anyway I did. Could you help me?
 

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What about this?

I wasn't
really qualified to apply for the job really but I got it anyhow.

Post #7 was suggesting you reposition really, not repeat it.

But I don't know how to improve the other sentence-- I don't know why I settled on Aberdeen, but anyway I did. Could you help me?

I've already told you what I think—that you should forget about this sentence, but you seem set on ignoring my advice.

Remove anyway and it's fine.
 

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Post #7 was suggesting you reposition really, not repeat it.



I've already told you what I think—that you should forget about this sentence, but you seem set on ignoring my advice.

Remove anyway and it's fine.

1. Sorry I forgot to remove the later really.

2. I’m really grateful for your patience and kindness, for your replies have helped me so much. I didn’t mean to ignore your advice. I just tried to respond to Tarheel’s question in #5. Sorry to make you misunderstand me.
 

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I’m really grateful for your patience and kindness, for your replies have helped me so much. I didn’t mean to ignore your advice. I just tried to respond to Tarheel’s question in #5. Sorry to make you misunderstand me.

Okay.
 

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What about changing the second sentence like this?

I wasn't qualified for the job [STRIKE]really[/STRIKE], but I got it anyhow.

That's better.

(Please note what Ems said.)
 
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