Ola Swensson
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Dear all,
In my workbook [Cambridge English, Complete Advanced (C1), 2nd edition by Guy Brook-Hart and Simon Haines, Workbook, p. 14], I have to use the appropriate form of the passive.
I know that usually it is past perfect that is used with “by the time”. So I said that “By the beginning of the twentieth century, the interpretation of dreams had been most commonly associated with…” (see the text below).
However, the right answer is past simple “was most commonly associated”.
I read in some forums that with “by the time” “past simple would never be the correct choice because the time clause "By the + point in time," indicates some separation between the point in time where it is located and the period of time when the event in the main clause occurred” (https://english.stackexchange.com/q...time-past-simple-past-continuous-past-perfect).
Could you tell me please why we can’t use past perfect in this case? Can we say that the use of past simple here breaks the rules?
Thank you very much in advance.
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Text:
Two thousand years ago, dreams were regularly interpreted as supernatural or divine communication, and they were therefore thought to foretell the future. By the beginning of the twentieth century, the interpretation of dreams had been most commonly associated with psychoanalysis and its famous practitioners, Freud and Jung, who regarded dreams as the bridge between the unconscious and conscious mind, a tool with which the secrets of the human mind could be finally unlocked.
In my workbook [Cambridge English, Complete Advanced (C1), 2nd edition by Guy Brook-Hart and Simon Haines, Workbook, p. 14], I have to use the appropriate form of the passive.
I know that usually it is past perfect that is used with “by the time”. So I said that “By the beginning of the twentieth century, the interpretation of dreams had been most commonly associated with…” (see the text below).
However, the right answer is past simple “was most commonly associated”.
I read in some forums that with “by the time” “past simple would never be the correct choice because the time clause "By the + point in time," indicates some separation between the point in time where it is located and the period of time when the event in the main clause occurred” (https://english.stackexchange.com/q...time-past-simple-past-continuous-past-perfect).
Could you tell me please why we can’t use past perfect in this case? Can we say that the use of past simple here breaks the rules?
Thank you very much in advance.
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Text:
Two thousand years ago, dreams were regularly interpreted as supernatural or divine communication, and they were therefore thought to foretell the future. By the beginning of the twentieth century, the interpretation of dreams had been most commonly associated with psychoanalysis and its famous practitioners, Freud and Jung, who regarded dreams as the bridge between the unconscious and conscious mind, a tool with which the secrets of the human mind could be finally unlocked.