Cheaters, flamers, lamers

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Hello guys,
Maybe some of you know such words.
If not, I'll try to describe them as best I can.
Cheater: Someone who uses unfair tricks in competitions like games. (Or another meaning: If a man/woman has affairs while being married to someone.)
Flamer: Someone who insults members in forums, games etc.
Lamer: A guy who only tries to win, even if it's a very boring and unsightly method.

The problem:
In German we also use these words, but we never add an s (in order to make them plural).
So we would always say "These cheater, flamer, lamer." etc.
Also dictionaries don't give me results when I search for "cheaters, flamers, lamers".
Without s: Always correct results.
(dict.cc | Wrterbuch Englisch-Deutsch)

However, I definitely know that the word "hackers" exists.
That's why I'm a bit surprised, I cannot see a clear logic.

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Interesting, thanks!

Well, I guess online players invited their own meaning of the word lamer :)

Maybe the problem with these words is that they do not really exist.
Or maybe they only exist as computer language.
dict.cc lists the word flame, however, with the info [comp].
This means words like flamer are just the noun.
(Like: Club -> clubbing; does not really exist.)

Maybe we can get some other opinions :)

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Interesting, thanks!

Well, I guess online players invited their own meaning of the word lamer :)

Maybe the problem with these words is that they do not really exist.
Or maybe they only exist as computer language.
dict.cc lists the word flame, however, with the info [comp].
This means words like flamer are just the noun.
(Like: Club -> clubbing; does not really exist.)

Maybe we can get some other opinions :)

Cheers!

I agree. They exist only with a few speakers who use them as slang(something that is bad) though in India I have come across the word ‘cheater’ being used as a noun to describe a big cheat as; He is a big cheater.
 

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Cheater (n) is far more common than cheat (n) in North America, where cheat is nearly always heard as a verb. Also, just because you don't find plurals in searches doesn't mean they don't exist. Dictionaries usually save space by reducing words to the barest form and adding bits later like "; -s (pl)."
 

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I have seen flaming used a lot, but can't say I have seen flamer used much. I'd be more likely to use troll for the person.
 

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I have seen flaming used a lot, but can't say I have seen flamer used much. I'd be more likely to use troll for the person.

I don't think a 'troll' is quite the same; all trolls are flamers (if I may use that word, which I have only met in this thread!), but some flamers may just be responding to the flames of trolls.

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I don't think a 'troll' is quite the same; all trolls are flamers (if I may use that word, which I have only met in this thread!), but some flamers may just be responding to the flames of trolls.

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Yes, though it can get a bit trainspottery with dozens of subcategories and alternatives like griefers. I tend lump astroturfers and spammers into one category and flamers and trolls into another. :snipersm:
 
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