[Grammar] conjunction 'Given that ' usage.

[Livon4090]

Dear Teachers,

I am new to this forum and I promise I will ask you as many questions as I can on the grammar to make my doubts clear. I request you to please cooperate with me .

My query: why we use 'given that"


Given that he was sick, he attended his school.

He received the award, given that he did not deserve it.

other queries are as follows:

Are the written sentences correct?
Do we only use given that only with past?

 

[probus]

None of your examples of "given that" is natural or correct.

"Given that" comes from the language of logic and mathematics.

"Given that" is always followed by an assertion of fact or a logical proposition, and it means that for purposes of the current discussion that assertion is indisputable.

We may well be able to help you better if you tell the truth about your native language.

 

[bhaisahab]

Dear Teachers,

I am new to this forum and I promise I will ask you as many questions as I can on the grammar to make my doubts clear. I request you to please cooperate with me .

My query: why we use 'given that"


Given that he was sick, he attended his school.

He received the award, given that he did not deserve it.

other queries are as follows:

Are the written sentences correct?
Do we only use given that only with past?

Please give correct information in your profile.

 

[Matthew Wai]

"Given that he was sick, his teacher let him get out of school earlier."
Is it correct?

 

[Rover_KE]

I request you to please cooperate with me.

Why should we when you have given untrue information in your profile?

Cooperation works both ways.

 

[MikeNewYork]

"Given that he was sick, his teacher let him get out of school earlier."
Is it correct?

For me, "get out of school earlier" is not natural. I would say: "Given that he was sick, his teacher let him go home (from school) early."

 

[Livon4090]

DEAR FRIENDS,

I still have not got the correct answer that why and when we use "given that" ?

Could someone please provide some lucid examples for that and with some explanations ,too.

I would very grateful to you .

Best wishes ,

Livon

 

[MikeNewYork]

DEAR FRIENDS,

I still have not got the correct answer that why and when we use "given that" ?

Could someone please provide some lucid examples for that and with some explanations ,too.

I would very grateful to you .

Best wishes ,

Livon

Probus gave you the correct information in Post#2. Did you not understand it?

 

[Livon4090]

Probus gave you the correct information in Post#2. Did you not understand it?

Although Probus provided me the answer , I really require how it (given that) can be used in sentences. I actually need some lucid examples with explanations so that my doubts would be clarified and I can have the knowledge to use 'given that ' in constructing sentences

Please understand my point and try to illustrate it for me .

Best wishes,
Livon

 

[Matthew Wai]

See given - Definition from Longman English Dictionary Online
MikeNewYork's reply in Post#6 can serve as an example too.

Not a teacher.

 

[Rover_KE]

Click here to read nearly 48,000 examples. (Bookmark that site for future reference.)

 

[Livon4090]

Dear Friends,

Even though I saw that example,I could not figure out the usage of "given that " as no explanation was given . Even if it would be given in a simple manner , it would be fine . If it could be given in plain English,it would be much better . I hope you understand my point , so please try to provide some lucid examples with their explanations and this is what I am after. At least 2 examples with their explanations would be worth if possible.
Best wishes,
Livon

 

[Livon4090]

Hi Probus,

I appreciate your response. I really need a couple of examples with explanations so if you would do that for me , I would be thankful to you.
Best wishes,
Livon

 

[Matthew Wai]

I take "given that" to mean "considering the fact that".
"Given that his profile contained untrue information, the moderators were indisposed to cooperate with him."

Not a teacher.

 

[probus]

You want some examples:

Given that the United States will never stop favouring Israel, a two state solution is almost impossible to achieve.

Given that the world's population will continue to increase without limit, we shall eventually run short of food.

Note that in neither case does the author necessarily claim that the "given" proposition is true. It is always a mere hypothesis governing the subsequent discourse.

 

[Matthew Wai]

It is always a mere hypothesis governing the subsequent discourse.

My dictionaries do not mention "given that" mainly applies to hypotheses rather than facts, was it omission?

 

[emsr2d2]

It doesn't only apply to hypotheses at all. In fact, I would say it's mainly used to refer to facts (or to statements which the speaker/writer probably thinks are facts).

Given that I am a slightly dumpy 44-year-old, I am unlikely to become a supermodel.
Given that my car is over 23 years old, I doubt it will pass its next MOT.

The statements directly after "given that" are verifiable facts. The second half of the sentences are supposition.

I would say that in probus' example statements, the writer probably believes that his/her statements after "given that" are factual.

 

[tzfujimino]

It doesn't only apply to hypotheses at all. In fact, I would say it's mainly used to refer to facts (or to statements which the speaker/writer probably thinks are facts).

Given that I am a slightly dumpy 44-year-old, I am unlikely to become a supermodel.
Given that my car is over 23 years old, I doubt it will pass its next MOT.

The statements directly after "given that" are verifiable facts. The second half of the sentences are supposition.

I would say that in probus' example statements, the writer probably believes that his/her statements after "given that" are factual.

Hello.:-D
I'd like to ask a question here.

How do you pronounce "MOT"?
(I'm sorry it's not relevant to the original question.)

(Edit) I should have looked it up in the dictionary I frequently use.
I'm sorry to have taken up your precious time, Rover, and thank you so much.

 

[Rover_KE]

em-oh-tee

 

[Matthew Wai]

Audible pronunciation of MOT is available on MOT noun - definition in the British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionaries Online

And I trust emsr2d2's answer more than probus'.