[Grammar] consider subscribe

[sitifan]

If this is your first time here, consider subscribe, join the fam and learn English together!
https://youtu.be/NIik3DajVVc?t=5

Is the expression "consider subscribe" acceptable to native speakers?

 

[5jj]

No.

 

[teechar]

Is the expression "consider subscribe" acceptable to native speakers?

It's ungrammatical. She should say "consider subscribing". Also, "join the fam" is meaningless!

 

[GoesStation]

Also, "join the fam" is meaningless!

It's slang of (I believe) quite recent origin. I first saw it a couple of months ago.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

It's ungrammatical. She should say "consider subscribing". Also, "join the fam" is meaningless!

Fam is fine, as long as you want your tone to be giddy, casual, and contemporary.

Maybe it's just an Americanism.

 

[Glizdka]

Not a teacher
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Consider subscribe sounds like just plain bad English. Wrong part of speech. You consider something. You need a noun (subscription) or a gerund (subscribing). Being as addicted to YouTube as I am, I'd say consider subscribing to my channel is the most natural expression and what she should have said.

That alone would discourage me from learning English from her.

I've been seeing fam a lot. It's short for family. When she says "Join the fam", I think she means "Join the family", her subscribers. However, from my experience, fam is most often used the same way man, dude, homie, pal, dawg are used, to address someone. It's slightly weird to hear "Join the fam". Fam is highly colloquial. My general rule with words as highly colloquial as fam is that you shouldn't use them unless you'd also be comfortable with cursing when speaking to the person.

 

[teechar]

You need a noun (subscription)

Actually, "consider subscription" wouldn't work.
The pattern needed here is "consider" + gerund.

Fam is highly colloquial.

I don't know what you mean by that. I knew the speaker meant "family" by it, but I'd never come across it before, and from what GoesStation and Charlie Bernstein have said, it's likely a recent word that has not yet caught on in the mainstream in AmE. I certainly think it's bad form on the part of that woman in the video to be using it. She should focus on teaching the basic rules of grammar and standard expressions instead.

 

[Glizdka]

Actually, "consider subscription" wouldn't work.
The pattern needed here is "consider" + gerund.

Which is what I've suggested in post #7.

I'd say consider subscribing to my channel is the most natural expression and what she should have said.

[fam]'s likely a recent word that has not yet caught on in the mainstream in AmE.

It's pretty prevalent. I first heard it about 10 years ago or so. I'm fairly certain about every teenage American and most Americans in their 20s and 30s would know it. Most respectable dictionaries list it, including Cambridge, Oxford, and Merriam-Webster.

Interestingly enough, the word originates from hip-hop slang and was originally used by African American minorities to show you "belonged".

 

[5jj]

:snipersm::snipersm::snipersm:

 

[GoesStation]

Interestingly enough, the word originates from hip-hop slang and was originally used by African American minorities to show you "belonged".

A great deal of American slang originates in AAVE. Coining rich new usages is a prominent feature of that dialect.

 

[Glizdka]

A great deal of American slang originates in AAVE. Coining rich new usages is a prominent feature of that dialect.

For some reason, these words/expressions just seem "cool".

 

[teechar]

I hope and pray that this particular one eventually fades into oblivion.