[Grammar] Do we use subjuntive mood after DEPLORE

[Kotfor]

Do we use subjuntive mood after DEPLORE or not only?

1) They can't deplore that a man be weak. (is it ok)

2) I deeply deplore that you and others are allowed to call your religious beliefs mathematics.

 

[BobK]

In some parts of the world the subjunctive is more popular than in others ;-) In any case, here you are talking about a fact; in 2, people are allowed to call your religious beliefs mathematics. The subjunctive here would sound hyper-correct to me - a bit like knocking at a door and calling 'It is I'. Nobody could fault its grammar; few would say it.

You can always avoid the problem by nominalizing/creating a noun phrase: e.g. 'I deplore the way you have of always answering a question with a question'

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[Coolfootluke]

Do we use subjuntive mood after DEPLORE or not only?

1) They can't deplore that a man be weak. (is it ok)

2) I deeply deplore that you and others are allowed to call your religious beliefs mathematics.

I am not a teacher.

1. It took me a few readings to get why you thought the subjunctive might go there. I see it now, but I have to say no, partly because it took me so long, and mostly because the subjunctive is much deader than that in my dialect.

2. I can't see it here. The "that" seems to mean that they are allowed to do that already, making the subjunctive wrong.